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"Joe" wrote in message om... "JN" wrote in message . .. Now you're qualified to take me for an evening sail next summer when I spend my annual week in the Keys and serve me a glass of wine when I demand it, serve me a snack when I want it, and in general put up with all my garbage because I won't give a tip if you don't ????? Huh, cappy wappy? Is that what your paper gives you permission to do? Thats the OZ yachtmaster ticket you must be talking about. I hear the only pratical test a "yachtmaster" has to take, is how quick he can get his knee pads on and off. Here in the USA licences are for working mariners. Joe, it appears that you know as much about the Yachtmaster qualification as you do about international affairs. One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket? Regards Donal -- |
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The "chartwork" portion of the USCG test is actually rather demanding. Its not
so hard for those of us that learned to navigate the "old way," but a lot of newcomers have trouble with running fixes, etc. I know several people that passed the other portions but failed chartwork. While its true that the Yachtmaster test has a real live "hands on" component that is lacking in the USCG test, it is possible to get the highest level with only 2 months experience. The "Coastal Skipper" only requires a few weeks. On the other hand, 360 days of experience is required to get the lowest Master's license. Its virtually impossible for the seasonal recreational sailor to get this with less than 5 years experience. Even the "6-pack" Operators license requires this. Neal's "Near Coastal" Master's license requires 720 days, half of which must be "Near Coastal," which on the East Coast generally means 10 miles offshore, or outside of any protection. This is almost impossible to accumulate without extended cruising or professional service. The USCG license also has a series of tests, which take most of a day to complete. The rules test, in particular, is closed book, requires 90% to pass, and is rather tricky. In addition, there is a physical, drug test, first aid/CPR class, etc. And as Shen and Otn will point out, this is "entry level," and has little meaning in larger vessels. "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... "JN" wrote in message . .. Now you're qualified to take me for an evening sail next summer when I spend my annual week in the Keys and serve me a glass of wine when I demand it, serve me a snack when I want it, and in general put up with all my garbage because I won't give a tip if you don't ????? Huh, cappy wappy? Is that what your paper gives you permission to do? Thats the OZ yachtmaster ticket you must be talking about. I hear the only pratical test a "yachtmaster" has to take, is how quick he can get his knee pads on and off. Here in the USA licences are for working mariners. Joe, it appears that you know as much about the Yachtmaster qualification as you do about international affairs. One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket? Regards Donal -- |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote: The USCG license also has a series of tests, which take most of a day to complete. The rules test, in particular, is closed book, requires 90% to pass, and is rather tricky. In addition, there is a physical, drug test, first aid/CPR class, etc. And as Shen and Otn will point out, this is "entry level," and has little meaning in larger vessels. So what kind of license do you have to have to buy a Nordica 30 and sail it in the USA? LP |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... The "chartwork" portion of the USCG test is actually rather demanding. Its not so hard for those of us that learned to navigate the "old way," but a lot of newcomers have trouble with running fixes, etc. I know several people that passed the other portions but failed chartwork. While its true that the Yachtmaster test has a real live "hands on" component that is lacking in the USCG test, it is possible to get the highest level with only 2 months experience. The "Coastal Skipper" only requires a few weeks. The "2 months" version is a recent course, that IMHO violates the spirit of the Yachtmaster certificate. AFAIK, only one school offers such a short course. It is used by people who want to work at sea. Most recreational sailors would have 5-10 years experience before doing the practical test. I've only done the shorebased element. Happy Christmas Donal -- |
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One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Interesting, what if any inputs do you get? Shen |
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"Shen44" wrote in message ... One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Interesting, what if any inputs do you get? Not much. ... The slapping of the waves on the hull?? Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om... "JN" wrote in message . .. Now you're qualified to take me for an evening sail next summer when I spend my annual week in the Keys and serve me a glass of wine when I demand it, serve me a snack when I want it, and in general put up with all my garbage because I won't give a tip if you don't ????? Huh, cappy wappy? Is that what your paper gives you permission to do? Thats the OZ yachtmaster ticket you must be talking about. I hear the only pratical test a "yachtmaster" has to take, is how quick he can get his knee pads on and off. Here in the USA licences are for working mariners. Joe, it appears that you know as much about the Yachtmaster qualification as you do about international affairs. One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. Big deal Donal. I use to run the Schaffer, Shane, Mississippi and the Holma navigation canal and the houston ship channel at 25 knots and the fog was so thick you could not see 2 foot. You could paint the wheel house windows black and I could tell you ever dock we passed and every stream that lead into the river and tell you every were every shallow spot was. In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Yea did it all the time carrying 100 passengers and half a million dollars of tools, everyday. This time of year is the worst on the Mississippi delta. But like I said Ive ran south and SW pass of the mississippi in fog so thick you could cut it with a knife. Had to-the helicopter could not fly. And I wasent farting around at 4 knots, we usually ran at 25-30 knots. Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket? Plotting is a major part of the test But whats important is we had to do it everyday for real, and you better be able to tune in a radar to pick up logs, perows, and plywood hunk of **** boats unless you want some insane coonass to put a few 30 30 shells thru your wheelhouse. Regards Donal -- Back at you Joe Crewboat Texas Willie |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... "JN" wrote in message . .. Now you're qualified to take me for an evening sail next summer when I spend my annual week in the Keys and serve me a glass of wine when I demand it, serve me a snack when I want it, and in general put up with all my garbage because I won't give a tip if you don't ????? Huh, cappy wappy? Is that what your paper gives you permission to do? Thats the OZ yachtmaster ticket you must be talking about. I hear the only pratical test a "yachtmaster" has to take, is how quick he can get his knee pads on and off. Here in the USA licences are for working mariners. Joe, it appears that you know as much about the Yachtmaster qualification as you do about international affairs. One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked out, and predicting your position to within a few metres. Hmmm. I shouldn't have said "a few metres". I don't know what degree of accuracy is required. Big deal Donal. I use to run the Schaffer, Shane, Mississippi and the Holma navigation canal and the houston ship channel at 25 knots and the fog was so thick you could not see 2 foot. 2 foot!!! Now *that* is what I would call a peasouper!! You could paint the wheel house windows black and I could tell you ever dock we passed and every stream that lead into the river and tell you every were every shallow spot was. Emmm. So what? Those things are all clearly identified on the chart, aren't they? In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind". Yea did it all the time carrying 100 passengers and half a million dollars of tools, everyday. This time of year is the worst on the Mississippi delta. But like I said Ive ran south and SW pass of the mississippi in fog so thick you could cut it with a knife. Had to-the helicopter could not fly. And I wasent farting around at 4 knots, we usually ran at 25-30 knots. No Coll Regs in your part of the world, huh? Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket? Plotting is a major part of the test But whats important is we had to do it everyday for real, and you better be able to tune in a radar to pick up logs, perows, and plywood hunk of **** boats unless you want some insane coonass to put a few 30 30 shells thru your wheelhouse. I picked up a 2 gallon paint tin on my radar once. The visibility was about 2 feet, (or maybe 50 yards), and only a third of the can was sticking above the water. The gain was set to "auto". Isn't modern technology a wonderful thing? Regards Donal -- |
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Professional Courtesy and Respect
Congratulations. I guess nobody in the office (you use New Orleans?) reads this
group! BTW, did they raise your tonnage limit? For the 50+ ton licenses, they usually bump it up every renewal. -jeff |
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