http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/...ship_video.htm

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=gunship_video.htm



Very depressing bit of footage.


RB

jlrogers wrote:

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/...ship_video.htm

Lovely, "He's wounded", "Roger", "Hit him", "Roger", machine gun fire, "Got him"

I don't feel to great about watching people with sophisticated weaponry using
it to kill wounded people.

Marty

jlrogers wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/...ship_video.htm

Martin Baxter wrote:
Lovely, "He's wounded", "Roger", "Hit him", "Roger", machine gun fire, "Got him"

I don't feel to great about watching people with sophisticated weaponry using
it to kill wounded people.

Yep, I find it depressing to think that we have now got video game screens showing
real people being killed. OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.

It also made me wonder what those people were doing and why the Army had a chopper
watching them.

Regards
Doug King

OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.


I doubt the guy would agree with you.


RB

OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.

Bobsprit wrote:
I doubt the guy would agree with you.

Maybe, maybe not. He might have welcomed the chance to die for his beliefs, or he
may have been enough of a realist to say to himself, "Self, you've just been gut
shot with depleted uranium and engine parts. You have major wounds on at least two
extremities including broken bones. You are going to bleed to death in the near
future. Self, you are in great agony and this is just the beginning. Although you
can only hope for 3rd world first aid, even if you were, right this second, being
rushed to a major metropolitan trauma center and are tough enough to survive,
Self, you will be severely crippled and disfigured for life."

Of course, compared to your every day life Bubbles, maybe the guy wasn't so bad
off.

DSK

DSK wrote:



OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter wrote:


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

It seems pretty likely to me that he stopped a lot of debris from the truck he was
hiding under. I'm not trying to make a long-distance medical diagnosis but the guy
was dragging himself along the ground and looked pretty badly hurt, leaving a thick
trail behind him among other things. A friend looking over my shoulder says he was
already stopped moving (dead?) when they shot him the second time.

BTW the Army says it is not using depleted uranium any more... I wonder how true
that is? Those bullets look like they went right through those trucks like wet
tissue.

DSK

What were 'metal piercing bullets' made from before? My 30-06 Springfield
(military model) came with some clips full of MPBs.

Scotty

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Martin Baxter wrote:


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but
at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all
the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

It seems pretty likely to me that he stopped a lot of debris from the
truck he was
hiding under. I'm not trying to make a long-distance medical diagnosis but
the guy
was dragging himself along the ground and looked pretty badly hurt,
leaving a thick
trail behind him among other things. A friend looking over my shoulder
says he was
already stopped moving (dead?) when they shot him the second time.

BTW the Army says it is not using depleted uranium any more... I wonder
how true
that is? Those bullets look like they went right through those trucks like
wet
tissue.

DSK

Scott Vernon wrote:

What were 'metal piercing bullets' made from before? My 30-06 Springfield
(military model) came with some clips full of MPBs.

I know that some were made from a high molybdenum steel with surface hardened
tips. There are different ways of doing it, the above is 1960s era technology.

The bullet needs to be dense enough to carry a lot of energy into the target
surface, and enough harder to not get distorted (so that the energy of impact
stays in a small area) and yet surface hardening also makes metal brittle, so if
you overdo that part, the bullet just shatters. Depleted uranium is much simpler
(once you figure out how to make it in the first place) but as Martin said, the
dust & debris around the target are not healthy.

It doesn't do much for our "good guy" image to leave low-level radioactive
debris all around a country we've liberated. Future generations will not toss
flowers in our path for elevating their cancer rate! Just my humble opinon.... I
wonder if the US has really stopped using depleted uranium, or if they've found
something almost as good?

BTW did you see the clips of Carolina beating UConn?

DSK