DICLAIMER
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Didn't have much to do today, eh, Joe?

The French are trying to preserve their culture and language just as we
here try to ignire the fact that much of the US is Hispanic, speaks
Spanish, and that historically, the US has been culturally influenced by
Spain and Mexico. There are a great many here who would decry any
attempt to become a bi-lingual nation, basing their opposition on the
WASP ancestry and touting the English development of the colonies as
their proof.

Mientras la CUCARACHA residente nos cansa con tu retorica RACISTA y
MEDIOCRE
de que los Latinos no pueden o nos quieren, continuan saliendo
articulos
como el siguiente que lo desmiente.


The French are cowardly? And I suppose that is why the Napoleonic Wars
were won by other than the French? Oh yes, he made mistakes at the end,
but that wasn't the French soldier leaving in cowardice.

Gallic Wars – Lost….
Hundred Years War – Although they kinda/sorta mostly lost, they were
saved by Joan of Arc (a female schizophrenic) who by accident created
The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only
when not led by a Frenchman."
Italian Wars – France became the first and only country in history to
lose not just one, but TWO wars against Italians.
Wars of Religion - France was 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.
Thirty Years War – Although not technically a principal, they did
manage to get invaded anyway. Amusingly they claim a tie on the basis
that eventually the other participants started ignoring them.
War of Devolution – Tied
The Dutch War - Tied.
War of the Augsburg League – Lost/claimed tie.
King William's War – Lost/claimed tie.
French and Indian War – Lost/claimed tie.
Three ties in a row caused some deluded folks to label the period as
the height of French military power.
War of the Spanish Succession - Lost.
American Revolution - In a Scribean foreshadow of the future, France
claims a win even though the English colonists saw way more action.
This is eventually known as "de Gaulle Syndrome".
It also establishes Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins
when America does most of the fighting."
French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was
also French.
The Napoleonic Wars - Lost.
The Franco-Prussian War - Lost.
World War I - Tied and on the way to losing. France was saved by the
United States.
World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States
and Britain.
War in Indochina – Lost
Algerian Rebellion - Lost. The first defeat of a western army by a
Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades. It gave birth to the First
Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is
identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans,
English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
War on Terrorism – France has surrendered to Germans and Muslims just
to be safe.


Or what about
the hundreds of French citizens who hid Jews in their homes? I'm sure
cowardice played a great part in helping them make that decision.


Got to give you that one, The French are excellent at hiding.



And
you forget, the French played an important role in our own battle fro
independence. Lafayette, you know.

Being in America (Galveston) rubbed off on Jean.


But then, I doubt if that school
you attended taught anything as salient as real, unabridged history.

I did not need to go to school to see what cowards the French were
after 911.


I'd also like to point out that the US, along with OZ, was a dumping
ground for the "criminal" unwanted of Great Britain. Have you ever
investigated what some of those crimes were that got those poor
unfortunates a one way trip to what was then nowhere?

Nowhere? A land full of oppurtunity and almost endless resources for
anyone with the gumption to take it. Jeeeeze Katy you would of Died
off the first 6 mo. here. I would of walked west and Claimed Texas
(mexico) for myself. You see them as poor petty criminals cast out. I
see them as lucky people thru chance given the opportunity of a
lifetime.


Being a debtor
alone would earn you a ticket. Heck, if we were to deport all the
debtors in the us, there wouldn't be a country big enough to hold them.
Great Britain was suffering a depression. There was no food. Farms had
failed and industry was slack. To quote Dickens, "They reduced the
surplus population". But then, you probably also thought that Dickens's
stories came straight out of his head and had no basis in reality. Joe,
you may be well read, but your comprehension level and ability to sift
and sort through what is and isn't true is deplorable.

Your blind eye to the facts is Deplorable.


And leave off
the metric stuff. Metric has its' place and always will.

You can have it.


Keep this up
and your punishment may be that your eternity will be spent in a place
that uses a base 3 metric system.

Yeah, but if I go and confess to a guy hidden in a closet, do 50 hail
Marys and help an old lady across the street God will forgive me.

Joe

DICLAIMER
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
OZ moaned: Oh dear, once again te redneck shows how badly he was let
down by the
American school system....either that or he's a total moron!

It's not the school system. There has to be something there to teach.

Katy Oz is somewhat correct. Even though he's a stupid asshole with no
excuse.


In the 70's when I entered Jr high I was forced to be bused 2 hours
each way to the black side of town were the teachers could of cared
less if anyone learned. The schools were under staffed by stupid ****s
that got paid by how many student passed, not by what the students
learned. I can still remember looking out the window of the bus when
some punk negro jumped up and spit in my face. I never new him or had
seen him in my life. I jumped off the bus and started beating his head
into the side off the bus until about a dozen other negros decided to
help him. I still got the best of him and tore out enough afro to
stuff a pillow. I was suspended for a while. After that I had little
respect for or interest in our education system. Skipped school most
days but somehow I still passed. Lost interest at 16 ran away from
home and joined the Navy. When I was 22 I was the youngest USMM 1000
ton master in the USA running new boats worth over 3 million dollars.

Formal schooling is not a good indicater of intelligence. I work with
Phd's all the time that some IMO are dumb as dirt and some are indeed
brilliant. But perhaps they had a learning enviroment that was
pleasent and encouraging.

Today I own 3 companys. 2 of them deal daily with providing services
to America's fortune 500 companies.

So dont say it's wasent the schools systems that failed.



Joe

DICLAIMER
 

So losing wars means cowardice in Joe's opinion? Doesn't say much, =
then, for his opinion of Viet Nam vets, deos it? By his equation, =
American soldiers must also be cowards because we have lost wars. In =
reality, it is much braver to keep fighting even though you're losing, =
if what you're fighting for is right. Curling up in a ball is not =
bravery. Of course, then you can argue about whether or not any of =
those wars were right. But then, is any war ever right? Justifiable =
does not equal right.

--=20
katysails
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

DICLAIMER
 

Joe demanded:=20
So dont say it's wasent the schools systems that failed.

It's all excuses, Joe, to justify your actions and carry a =
self-righteous chip on your shoulder. Get over it. You're a big boy =
now and should act like a grown-up.
--=20
katysails
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

DICLAIMER
 

"Joe" wrote in message
om...

So dont say it's wasent the schools systems that failed.

You summed it up very well, Joe.


Regards

Donal
--

DICLAIMER
 

In article , Joe
wrote:

"katysails" wrote in message
...
OZ moaned: Oh dear, once again te redneck shows how badly he was let
down by the
American school system....either that or he's a total moron!

It's not the school system. There has to be something there to teach.

Katy Oz is somewhat correct. Even though he's a stupid asshole with no
excuse.

[snip]

Formal schooling is not a good indicater of intelligence. I work with
Phd's all the time that some IMO are dumb as dirt and some are indeed
brilliant. But perhaps they had a learning enviroment that was
pleasent and encouraging.

Gotta agree with that. The *only* thing needed to get a PhD is
sufficient determination to stay in the system long enough. My guys
take the new postdocs and introduce them to reality. For some, the
experience is very painful. For others, they never manage to grasp the
fact that having a piece of paper means little outside that narrow
niche. Typically they go somewere where reality has less impact on
their fantasy life.

Peter Wiley

DICLAIMER
 

Our VN vets didn't lose the war, the fu%#ing politicians wouldn't let them
win it.

And every body knows the french are cowards.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
So losing wars means cowardice in Joe's opinion? Doesn't say much, then,
for his opinion of Viet Nam vets, deos it? By his equation, American
soldiers must also be cowards because we have lost wars. In reality, it is
much braver to keep fighting even though you're losing, if what you're
fighting for is right. Curling up in a ball is not bravery. Of course,
then you can argue about whether or not any of those wars were right. But
then, is any war ever right? Justifiable does not equal right.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

DICLAIMER
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Joe demanded:
So dont say it's wasent the schools systems that failed.

It's all excuses, Joe, to justify your actions and carry a
self-righteous chip on your shoulder. Get over it. You're a big boy
now and should act like a grown-up.

Hey Im over it. All worked out for the best IMO. While you and Donal
were in your high school years going to the prom, I was traveling the
world over.

And my Buddy George, while governer put in place a system that grades
schools and teachers by how much the kids learn, not by how many pass.

So there!

Joe

DICLAIMER
 

While you and Donal
were in your high school years going to the prom, I was traveling the
world over.

No...you were still in Junior high....by your timeline...

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

DICLAIMER
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
So losing wars means cowardice in Joe's opinion? Doesn't say much,
then, for his opinion of Viet Nam vets, deos it? By his equation,
American soldiers must also be cowards because we have lost wars.


Wrong, the leaders in Washington during the Vietnam war were cowards
unwilling to go all out and win the Vietnam war. McNamara being the
most French like of the whole bunch.

Joe


In
reality, it is much braver to keep fighting even though you're losing,
if what you're fighting for is right. Curling up in a ball is not
bravery. Of course, then you can argue about whether or not any of
those wars were right. But then, is any war ever right? Justifiable
does not equal right.