guys, you are missing the point. namely, that a modern diesel engine puts out
about 16 hp for each gallon of fuel burned per hour.

you wanna use less fuel, use less hp.

I think your last point is the real issue. How much hp is required to
push a given displacement sailboat to hullspeed in a given set of
conditions? Generally it has been around 2500 rpm in my experience.
Just as I don't generally drive my auto in such a way as to require
all 225 hp, I don't motor in my sailboat in such a way as to require
all 27 hp. I have never calculated my fuel consumption, but 1 gallon
per hour would be WAY high, in my experience. Maybe if my boat was a
barge with a shag carpet on the bottom and an Atomic 4, maybe...



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
okay, old fart, here is a fuel rate curve for another engine. It shows,
btw,
the best hp/gallon at near max hp (to be expected, because in a diesel max
torque [best efficiency] rpm is near max hp rpm)

http://www.deltahawkengines.com/perfor02.htm


btw old fart, are *really* trying to say large diesel engines make
horse****
use of diesel fuel to generate each hp output as compared to small diesel
engines? That IS what you said. Did you mean it?

Jax is a LIAR, Jax is a STUPID LIAR,
Jax is so STUPID that he gives fuel usage of a 125 hp engine to try and
prove the fuel usage of a 20 hp Diesel. When was the last time anyone
has seen a Mono Aux traveling a 33 mph?

Jax is a LIAR!! Jax is a TROLLING LIAR!!
Jax is such a STUPID LIAR that he proves himself to be a STUPID LIAR by
just letting him talk (or Post) He and his mentor do not know the
meaning of truth

Jax doesn't even know were he lives; He is a LIAR!!

Jax doesn't know what kind of boat he owns; He is a LIAR

In his own Murky Mensa Mind (LOL) he still doesn't know the location of
the Gulf Stream and tries to Lie his way out of his IGNORANCE.

Trying to reason with a confirmed LIAR is a useless exercise. For this
reason I terminate any farther discussions with;
THE LIAR!!!

Ole Thom

jeffies, give it up. you merely make yourself look a luddite.

modern, water-cooled, 4-cycle, brand spanking new diesel engines in laboratory
conditions use about 1 gallon of fuel for each 16 hp produced.

Now you're using de-tuned farm engines to prove your point. But once again,
you
screw it up! On the same page they list others that are over 18 hp/gal-hour,
and that's detuned to run at 1500 rpm, and using US gallons. Those numbers
listed as "Specific Fuel Consumption" is in "grams per HP-hour"; you have to
be
capable of a bit of math to properly convert to hp-hours/gallon.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
old fart, here is the Lister engine under brand new engine, and laboratory
conditions claiming about 19 hp/gallon/hour (that's Imperial gallons, btw)

http://www.lovson.com/engineering.html

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
10 gallons will go through a finely tuned 10 hp diesel in about 20 hours,
or
about the time, donny, it would take *you* to MOTOR across the English
Channel.
Are you saying *you* ran *your* 20 hp engine at super econo cruiser to
cross?

Jax, my engine is a 30hp (or more precisely 28 point something hp).
Perhaps you could re-do your calculations for a 30 hp engine?


Regards



Donal
--

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Agreed. Horvath and Bill act stupid to be funny, jax does it to annoy.


Nah, he is genuinely a bit deficient.


Remember his complaints to my ISP? He demonstrated that he cannot tell the
difference between abuse *of* the Internet, and abuse *on* the Internet.

He also demonstrated a genuine inability to comprehend. After all, he fired
off another complaint about the post where I said that *I* was "abuse" at
lanode dot com. I doubt that he will make sense of this post.



Regards


Donal
--

Then why do you keep providing sources that have better efficiency? The Yanmar
you mentioned, according to the Mastry site, is over 20 hp/gal-hours. Even your
Indian farm engines were 18 hp/gal-hours. You keep making a claim, than
providing sources that prove you wrong! You certainly seem dumber than Old
Thom's farts!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, give it up. you merely make yourself look a luddite.

modern, water-cooled, 4-cycle, brand spanking new diesel engines in laboratory
conditions use about 1 gallon of fuel for each 16 hp produced.

Now you're using de-tuned farm engines to prove your point. But once again,
you
screw it up! On the same page they list others that are over 18 hp/gal-hour,
and that's detuned to run at 1500 rpm, and using US gallons. Those numbers
listed as "Specific Fuel Consumption" is in "grams per HP-hour"; you have to
be
capable of a bit of math to properly convert to hp-hours/gallon.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
old fart, here is the Lister engine under brand new engine, and laboratory
conditions claiming about 19 hp/gallon/hour (that's Imperial gallons, btw)

http://www.lovson.com/engineering.html

okay. 10 gallons of fuel would go through a finely tuned diesel putting out 30
hp in about 15 hours.

btw, why in hell do you have just 10 gallons of fuel for a 30 hp engine? Can't
be you were trying to save weight, for if that were the goal you would have
installed a 20 hp or even a 10 hp engine, and at less cost.

Jax, my engine is a 30hp (or more precisely 28 point something hp).
Perhaps you could re-do your calculations for a 30 hp engine?


Regards



Donal
--

sending purposely spiked emails with malecious code embedded is in fact
considered "abuse". Other people also stated you had done the same to them.
You have no idea how close you came to losing the domain from which you then
made your living.

Remember his complaints to my ISP? He demonstrated that he cannot tell the
difference between abuse *of* the Internet, and abuse *on* the Internet.

jeffies, you are just too stupid to deal with.
yesterday you were claiming you had proof positive that diesels put out upwards
of thirty hp per gallon in just about any condition, and today you are
quibbling that brand spanking new engines operating under laboratory conditions
are claimed by their manufacturers to get just over the 16 hp per gallon I
stated as the norm.

now, go quibble that 16 hp is more like 16 point something hp.

Then why do you keep providing sources that have better efficiency? The
Yanmar
you mentioned, according to the Mastry site, is over 20 hp/gal-hours. Even
your
Indian farm engines were 18 hp/gal-hours. You keep making a claim, than
providing sources that prove you wrong! You certainly seem dumber than Old
Thom's farts!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, give it up. you merely make yourself look a luddite.

modern, water-cooled, 4-cycle, brand spanking new diesel engines in
laboratory
conditions use about 1 gallon of fuel for each 16 hp produced.

Now you're using de-tuned farm engines to prove your point. But once
again,
you
screw it up! On the same page they list others that are over 18
hp/gal-hour,
and that's detuned to run at 1500 rpm, and using US gallons. Those
numbers
listed as "Specific Fuel Consumption" is in "grams per HP-hour"; you have
to
be
capable of a bit of math to properly convert to hp-hours/gallon.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
old fart, here is the Lister engine under brand new engine, and
laboratory
conditions claiming about 19 hp/gallon/hour (that's Imperial gallons,
btw)

http://www.lovson.com/engineering.html

It wasn't "proof positive," I was simply providing a number given on the Yanmar
spec sheet. At reduced RPM, the HP at the flywheel is much greater than what
is produced at the prop.

And there's a huge difference between 16 hp per gallon and 21 hp per gallon.
Improving fuel efficiency over 25% is nothing to sneeze at. I've never argued
that there isn't a relationship here - only that your number isn't quite right.

Further your fundamental claim is flawed because Donal's 28 hp engine is
probably run at reduced throttle and actually puts out about 12 hp to cruise at
80% of hull speed. (I'm just guessing because I don't know the details of his
boat or engine.) He probably uses slightly over a half gallon to go about 7
miles. Doing that, 10 Imperial Gallons is plenty to get him over to France and
back.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you are just too stupid to deal with.
yesterday you were claiming you had proof positive that diesels put out
upwards
of thirty hp per gallon in just about any condition, and today you are
quibbling that brand spanking new engines operating under laboratory
conditions
are claimed by their manufacturers to get just over the 16 hp per gallon I
stated as the norm.

now, go quibble that 16 hp is more like 16 point something hp.

Then why do you keep providing sources that have better efficiency? The
Yanmar
you mentioned, according to the Mastry site, is over 20 hp/gal-hours. Even
your
Indian farm engines were 18 hp/gal-hours. You keep making a claim, than
providing sources that prove you wrong! You certainly seem dumber than Old
Thom's farts!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, give it up. you merely make yourself look a luddite.

modern, water-cooled, 4-cycle, brand spanking new diesel engines in
laboratory
conditions use about 1 gallon of fuel for each 16 hp produced.

Now you're using de-tuned farm engines to prove your point. But once
again,
you
screw it up! On the same page they list others that are over 18
hp/gal-hour,
and that's detuned to run at 1500 rpm, and using US gallons. Those
numbers
listed as "Specific Fuel Consumption" is in "grams per HP-hour"; you have
to
be
capable of a bit of math to properly convert to hp-hours/gallon.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
old fart, here is the Lister engine under brand new engine, and
laboratory
conditions claiming about 19 hp/gallon/hour (that's Imperial gallons,
btw)

http://www.lovson.com/engineering.html

in two of the sciences.

So what was the degree Jocks?