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Capt. Mooron August 30th 04 05:00 AM

I believe he misconstrued my post as siding with you since it agreed with
your point of view...

If that were so then you can rest confident in your righteousness since I am
rarely wrong about anything... I'm certain you'll agree to that! :-)

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| Well if you do get lost, I suppose I'll have to rescue you, since
| according to Blob****, I owe you one.
|
| Any idea what he was yammering about?
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
|
| | Double talk, the last gasp of a loser.
|
| I haven't lost.... nor am I lost.... I was merely distracted for a
| second.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|



Scott Vernon August 30th 04 05:07 AM


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I believe he misconstrued my post as siding with you since it agreed

with
your point of view...

If that were so then you can rest confident in your righteousness

since I am
rarely wrong about anything... I'm certain you'll agree to that!

:-)

rarely, yes. but there was that 25% boom thing that you screwed up....

SV



John Cairns August 30th 04 05:12 AM

Sorry about that, had the post minimzed when I replied. Sailing a C&C 32 is
not a "sea trial" of the boat you purchased, unless the boat you purchased
is the one you sailed. There is only one kind of "sea trial" when you're
referring to the purchase of a used sailboat, it is a test sail with an
inspection of the particular boat
you're considering buying. Period. Really, even you should be able to figure
that one out. If you're going to play expert you need to UNDERSTAND the
terminology, otherwise you merely come off as ignorant
http://www.schulzsurveyors.com/sea.htm
This might help, a good definition of what a "sea trial" entails.
John Cairns.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Scotty and Mooron are now advocating buying a boat without a sea trial of

any
kind.
I sailed a C&C 32 twice before buying Alien ad drove quite a distance to

do
it.
I think spending time aboard a boat (when possible) is a good idea prior

to
purchase.

RB





John Cairns August 30th 04 05:13 AM

Sailing a C&C32 is not a "sea trial".
http://www.schulzsurveyors.com/sea.htm
If you're going to play the expert, you need to UNDERSTAND the terminology.
There is only one kind of "sea trial", it involves sailing and inspecting
the boat you intend to purchase, not the same model.
John Cairns

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Scotty and Mooron are now advocating buying a boat without a sea trial of

any
kind. .
I sailed a C&C 32 twice before buying Alien and drove quite a distance to

do
it.
I think spending time aboard a boat (when possible) is a good idea prior

to
purchase.

RB




Nav August 30th 04 07:28 AM

You been taking lessons from DSK?

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| I'll take that as a win for me. Thank you.

Premature claims of victory will not change the facts that I'm right and you
are wrong unless I agree you are right which I haven't done so you must
still be wrong because I am right.

CM





Bobsprit August 30th 04 12:58 PM

Sailing a C&C32 is not a "sea trial".
http://www.schulzsurveyors.com/sea.htm
If you're going to play the expert, you need to UNDERSTAND the terminology.
There is only one kind of "sea trial", it involves sailing and inspecting
the boat you intend to purchase, not the same model.

While sailing the vessel one plans to buy is best, sailing a sistership is a
reasonable alternative.
Let's look at why this is so.
The main reasons for a sea trial are to judge sailing characteristics and test
a vessel for obvious problems. In an era of production boats built by major
builders, boats of the same design generally exhibit identical sailing
charateristics. This is the essence of one design building. So sailing a
sistership(s) will generally bear out sailing characteristics. In the case of
Alien, her history was known to me and she was thoroughly gone over. In the end
I had some idea of how she would sail and had no concerns regarding condition.
For all intents and purposes I had a sea trial. Clearly this is not the case
with boats built one off and I would want a sea trial of certain makes, such as
Cheoy Lee, irrespective of a detailed survey.

RB

Bobsprit August 30th 04 01:37 PM

Sailing a similar boat is not a Sea Trial, it's a test drive.


Still more than Scotty did. And Mooron and Scotty are still advocating buying a
designs who's sailing properties are unknown.

RB

Scott Vernon August 30th 04 03:12 PM

More lies from the ****Head.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Sailing a similar boat is not a Sea Trial, it's a test drive.


Still more than Scotty did. And Mooron and Scotty are still

advocating buying a
designs who's sailing properties are unknown.

RB




Scott Vernon August 30th 04 03:13 PM

he 'tried out' the 'bed' (as he called it). That was all he needed,
that and good dock lines.

Scotty

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry about that, had the post minimzed when I replied. Sailing a

C&C 32 is
not a "sea trial" of the boat you purchased, unless the boat you

purchased
is the one you sailed. There is only one kind of "sea trial" when

you're
referring to the purchase of a used sailboat, it is a test sail with

an
inspection of the particular boat
you're considering buying. Period. Really, even you should be able

to figure
that one out. If you're going to play expert you need to UNDERSTAND

the
terminology, otherwise you merely come off as ignorant
http://www.schulzsurveyors.com/sea.htm
This might help, a good definition of what a "sea trial" entails.
John Cairns.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Scotty and Mooron are now advocating buying a boat without a sea

trial of
any
kind.
I sailed a C&C 32 twice before buying Alien ad drove quite a

distance to
do
it.
I think spending time aboard a boat (when possible) is a good idea

prior
to
purchase.

RB







Joe August 30th 04 04:28 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Sailing a C&C32 is not a "sea trial".
http://www.schulzsurveyors.com/sea.htm
If you're going to play the expert, you need to UNDERSTAND the terminology.
There is only one kind of "sea trial", it involves sailing and inspecting
the boat you intend to purchase, not the same model.

While sailing the vessel one plans to buy is best, sailing a sistership is a
reasonable alternative.


BULL****! Are you really that stupid?




Let's look at why this is so.
The main reasons for a sea trial are to judge sailing characteristics and test
a vessel for obvious problems.


Yes and you will never find odvious problems on a sistership dummy.


In an era of production boats built by major
builders, boats of the same design generally exhibit identical sailing
charateristics. This is the essence of one design building. So sailing a
sistership(s) will generally bear out sailing characteristics.


Halfwit


In the case of
Alien, her history was known to me and she was thoroughly gone over. In the end


Not if you did not do a sea trial. How did you stress her on the
blocks?


I had some idea of how she would sail and had no concerns regarding condition.
For all intents and purposes I had a sea trial.


Are you really this ignorant?



Clearly this is not the case
with boats built one off and I would want a sea trial of certain makes, such as Cheoy Lee, irrespective of a detailed survey.


I've never seen so much back peddeling in my life. Face it Bob you
just put your big foot in your own pile of crap. With a boat that has
rod rigging the only way to test it correctly is to sail her in seas.
Even the most cared for boat can have a flaw you will not find unless
you put her thru the paces.

Are you so dumb you can not understand the meaning of "Sea Trial"?

Joe

RB



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