On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:27:16 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.

What do you know? I always use a spinnaker upwind, and also two
bloopers. One on each side.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The whole idea just ****es me off!

LP :-)

"katysails" wrote:
We've been chiding him on these points all year....he has probably created
another "non-sailor"....
"Edgar" wrote :
Bart Senior wrote:
(snip).
I warned the ladies to pee now before we left the dock, after
which we'd only have the bucket, and I talked about how we'd
use the back of the boat and everyone could look the other way.
(snip)
While sailing out, I pointed out to the two ladies, both natives of
Poland, once again that if they needed to pee, to use the bucket.
I didn't bring my GPS, but I'd bet we averaged 6 knots blasting
across the Sound to Port Jeff.
(snip)

I'm not one to hold my water. I used the bucket to pee once
on the way across, when we were heeled sharply. Later on the way
back, when the wind died I peed off the back.

Halfway across I noticed one of the ladies had a very wet bottom
after everyone else's bottom had dried off. The poor gal was too
embarrassed to use the bucket and pee'd in her pants. She never
complained, so Fred and I pretended not to notice.

It was her first time sailing. Maybe next time, she think about using
the bucket rather than have a wet butt for 6 hours.

Hey Bart! Don't worry-she will never come sailing with you again.
The need to pee fills one's entire thoughts so that whatever else is
going
on becomes of secondary importance and she must have been really
miserable
to be forced to pee her pants. It is clear from your post that she had
figured out that using the bucket was going to be somewhat embarassing
anyway but doubly difficult when the boat is 'blasting' across the bay
probably at a considerable angle of heel. I think you should have made it
clear to your crew that if anyone wanted to use the bucket you would ease
sheets or bear away to bring the boat level while they performed.
Instead,
you were more concerned with seeing off a Mac with a 30hp outboard!
You are going to have problems getting lady crews in future I think.
Regards
Edgar

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote ...

It is clear from your post that she had
figured out that using the bucket was going to be somewhat
embarassing
anyway but doubly difficult when the boat is 'blasting' across the
bay
probably at a considerable angle of heel.

plus Bart holding his digital camera at the ready prolly didn't help
any.

No doubt, Scott! LOL

LP

Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:27:16 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.


What do you know? I always use a spinnaker upwind, and also two
bloopers. One on each side.


Of course you do, you win flags too.

Cheers

No, he wins fags, I mean flags... you're right.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Nav" wrote in message
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Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:27:16 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.


What do you know? I always use a spinnaker upwind, and also two
bloopers. One on each side.


Of course you do, you win flags too.

Cheers

Another option is the notorious "Prop Check"

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity to
urinate.


"Lady Pilot" wrote

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote ...

It is clear from your post that she had
figured out that using the bucket was going to be somewhat
embarassing
anyway but doubly difficult when the boat is 'blasting' across the
bay
probably at a considerable angle of heel.

plus Bart holding his digital camera at the ready prolly didn't help
any.

No doubt, Scott! LOL

LP

I don't know John, but the boat gets a lot of interest because of it's
speed. Last year I passed a sailboat with it's main up and running
it's outboard. After a bit of pointing by their crew, I heard the throttle
open up and they still couldn't keep up.

I also enjoy sailing circles around other sailboats. When I'm feeling
particularly mean, I do it twice to rub it in. : )

Bart

"John Cairns" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote

That was the first time I used a spinnaker, albeit a flat cut reacher,
to
sail
upwind. I wonder if the Etchells class rules allow for something like
this?
Probably not. I'll have to check. For the light wind days on Long
Island
Sound
a sail like this could be a rule beater--maybe in PHRF.

Bart
Good story. Don't know about Etchells class rules, they're probably on
line
somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if that boat is a giant killer in light
air. Wonder what it's rating is?
John Cairns

I agree, but not on the point of sail I was on, with ultra light wind.

Obviously racing one would be close-hauled. What I was doing
was just above a beam reach--upwind, maybe 20-30 degrees
above a beam reach--nowhere near close-hauled.

OzOne wrote

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:17:33 GMT, "John Cairns"
scribbled thusly:


"Bart Senior" wrote in message

That was the first time I used a spinnaker, albeit a flat cut reacher,
to
sail
upwind. I wonder if the Etchells class rules allow for something like
this?

IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.
On an Etchells you'd be blown away with this tactic. VMG to windward
under main and jib is just too good.


126, so yeah, they go OK
http://www.sailors.com/sfbay/racing/phrf-sf.html

"Bart Senior" wrote:

I hope not.

She was a nice girl. Somewhat shy.

But you still managed to make her **** her pants...

Fred and I asked the ladies if they wanted to head back
after passing Middle Ground, and no one said anything!

Those Polish women aren't used to American men, I would bet on it!

LP (take Katy's advice, really!)

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
Another option is the notorious "Prop Check"

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity to
urinate.

You definitely have a "****ing fetish"! No wonder...

LP



"Lady Pilot" wrote

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote ...

It is clear from your post that she had
figured out that using the bucket was going to be somewhat
embarassing
anyway but doubly difficult when the boat is 'blasting' across the
bay
probably at a considerable angle of heel.

plus Bart holding his digital camera at the ready prolly didn't help
any.

No doubt, Scott! LOL

LP