yes, but when the audience caught on, they were ****ed!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is that where they got the idea for 'wing walkers'?

S
"Scout" wrote in message
...
I think LP's referring to Bart's idea of slowing down the plane,
pretending
to do a prop check, then sneaking a pee.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Lady Pilot" wrote

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity to
urinate.

I would find the nearest airport

and pee out of the airplane?

Scotty

You calling them yellow?

Scotty, BTW, I'll be in W.Chester today and tomorrow.



"Scout" wrote in message
...
yes, but when the audience caught on, they were ****ed!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is that where they got the idea for 'wing walkers'?

S
"Scout" wrote in message
...
I think LP's referring to Bart's idea of slowing down the plane,
pretending
to do a prop check, then sneaking a pee.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Lady Pilot" wrote

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity to
urinate.

I would find the nearest airport

and pee out of the airplane?

Scotty

please say hi to my youngest and most recent monthly tuition bill!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You calling them yellow?

Scotty, BTW, I'll be in W.Chester today and tomorrow.



"Scout" wrote in message
...
yes, but when the audience caught on, they were ****ed!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is that where they got the idea for 'wing walkers'?

S
"Scout" wrote in message
...
I think LP's referring to Bart's idea of slowing down the plane,
pretending
to do a prop check, then sneaking a pee.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Lady Pilot" wrote

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity to
urinate.

I would find the nearest airport

and pee out of the airplane?

Scotty

after she/he sobers up, of course.

Scotty
"Scout" wrote in message
...
please say hi to my youngest and most recent monthly tuition bill!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You calling them yellow?

Scotty, BTW, I'll be in W.Chester today and tomorrow.



"Scout" wrote in message
...
yes, but when the audience caught on, they were ****ed!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is that where they got the idea for 'wing walkers'?

S
"Scout" wrote in message

...
I think LP's referring to Bart's idea of slowing down the
plane,
pretending
to do a prop check, then sneaking a pee.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Lady Pilot" wrote

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity
to
urinate.

I would find the nearest airport

and pee out of the airplane?

Scotty

he. yes, prolly between noon and 1 would be a good time.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
after she/he sobers up, of course.

Scotty
"Scout" wrote in message
...
please say hi to my youngest and most recent monthly tuition bill!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You calling them yellow?

Scotty, BTW, I'll be in W.Chester today and tomorrow.



"Scout" wrote in message
...
yes, but when the audience caught on, they were ****ed!
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Is that where they got the idea for 'wing walkers'?

S
"Scout" wrote in message

...
I think LP's referring to Bart's idea of slowing down the
plane,
pretending
to do a prop check, then sneaking a pee.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Lady Pilot" wrote

Where you go for a swim and use that as an opportunity
to
urinate.

I would find the nearest airport

and pee out of the airplane?

Scotty

OzOne wrote:
IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.

Why not? This strikes me as an unnecessary rule. Tacking with a
spinnaker is not a good way to get upwind, especially if you're in any
kind of close quarters... ask me how I know!


On an Etchells you'd be blown away with this tactic. VMG to windward
under main and jib is just too good.

Yes it's a great efficient rig. But how about something like a screecher
or Code Zero? Would it be possible to gain enough speed through the
water to make up for the low pointing?

BTW there are a number of fleets where Etchells participate in PHRF
racing as a courtesy (and to bulk up participation) but most places they
prefer fleet racing. Technically, to be eligible for a PHRF rating you
have to have things like a head, a bow pulpit, etc etc. Imagine doing a
distance race on an Etchells!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

katysails wrote:
We've been chiding him on these points all year....he has probably created
another "non-sailor"....

I think you're wronging Bart on several points. He wanted to go for a
sail, they wanted to go along. If Bart doesn't have a working head on
board, that's a bit of a barrier to longer sails with women on board...
but at least he tried...

DSK

Thanks Doug, The plan was "boys day out sailing".

George bailed out before we left the dock, and the girls invited
themselves along. I warned them. They were careful not to
drink any water either--they knew what they were getting into.

I didn't invite any ladies, just more experienced men. I wanted
to try out that new spinnaker-which turned out to be too big. My
first choice would have been to head upwind which would have
been a wet ride, followed by a deep broad reach back to test it
out. The Port Jeff option, I discussed early, including the time it
would take--about five hours, and I discussed the option of turning
around at Middle Ground--halfway. Fred was particularly keen to
get a response from the women--and one favored it--the other said
nothing--she wet her pants before we got to Middle Ground.

I gave my guests a good ride. Fred drove most of the day--he also
drove up from New Jersey to be there. I wanted him to see what
the boat was all about. Monica took the helm for a while also, and
did much of the sail trim. I didn't touch the helm all day and hardly
touched a sheet. I let them do what they wanted.

By the way, my "bucket" was a flexible Clorox bottle scoop. It's
perfect to **** in--for either sex. Part of being a sailor is being able
to use "the bucket". My 11 year old niece can do it.

"DSK" wrote

katysails wrote:

We've been chiding him on these points all year....he has probably
created
another "non-sailor"....

I think you're wronging Bart on several points. He wanted to go for a
sail, they wanted to go along. If Bart doesn't have a working head on
board, that's a bit of a barrier to longer sails with women on board...
but at least he tried...

DSK

I think my Clorox bottle scoop would do just as well.

"Lady Pilot" wrote

"katysails" wrote:

Next time you take ladies out, Bart, maybe you should invest in this
little
gizmo....


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...roductId=35264

Same product that has been offered for years in the aviation business.

I found a comparable product for just five bucks in the children's section
many years ago.

LP

I did a few PHRF races in San Francisco in an Etchells. It was fun!

We would win every start. We came in 4th at one Great Pumpkin
Regatta, out of maybe 90 boats. We were first overall of the fleet
that went clockwise around Angel Island. The three boats that beat
us all went around the island counter clockwise. If you have never
done one of these races, imagine two fleets meeting head on, on beam
reaches on the windward end of the island--exciting stuff, although
I think my skipper pee'd in his pants.

In another race, starting with the smallest boats of three size classes,
we lead the race for all fleets until the last leg when a 60 footer passed
us. We were second overall, and first in our fleet and of course beat
the entire middle sized fleet easily.

Putting an Etchells with trained crew in a PHRF is like putting a wolf
in the chicken shack.

A well cut, lightweight nylon drifter sheeted all the way aft to the
spinnaker
exit blocks would be a great sail for an Etchells in the very light air we
often get on the Sound.

"DSK" wrote
OzOne wrote:
IIRC, you can use a spinnaker to sail upwind but must not tack with
it.

Why not? This strikes me as an unnecessary rule. Tacking with a
spinnaker is not a good way to get upwind, especially if you're in any
kind of close quarters... ask me how I know!


On an Etchells you'd be blown away with this tactic. VMG to windward
under main and jib is just too good.

Yes it's a great efficient rig. But how about something like a screecher
or Code Zero? Would it be possible to gain enough speed through the
water to make up for the low pointing?

BTW there are a number of fleets where Etchells participate in PHRF
racing as a courtesy (and to bulk up participation) but most places they
prefer fleet racing. Technically, to be eligible for a PHRF rating you
have to have things like a head, a bow pulpit, etc etc. Imagine doing a
distance race on an Etchells!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King