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It's Over
Another sailing season gone by the wayside...the boat is out...it rained,
snowed, haled, and blew all day...the row out to the mooring at 8 am was very interesting. Gale warnings up...fortunately the wind was behind us but we almost overshot the stern! We pulled 64 boats between 8:30 am until 4:30 om...now we're defrosting our feet and hoping tomorrow will be warmer so we can go play with the pink Kool-Aid.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 "Women and cats will do as they please..." (Heinlein)...and we don't really care what the men and dogs think....(katy) |
We pulled 64 boats between 8:30 am until 4:30
How many travellifts does your marina have? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
We pull right at the yacht club with a crane...Torr4esen's Marine comes over
with a crane, 3 high-lo's and 2 trailer/tractor combos and it's like a giant chain reaction....everyone is divided into teams...we were on the cradle team....had to locate the cradle up next in the queue and point it out to the hi=lo guy who then loaded it into a waiting trailer...then the crew positions and the trailer takes off for the staging area to be loaded with a boat...then there's a crew on the wall where they lift out and a crew on the adjacent dock...you back up into the area with your boat and throw lines off 4 corners...the crane drops the slings down and they position the slings and voila! up and out and onto the trailer....then they take you to your parking place and the power washer crew comes and blasts all the grunge and mussels off the bottom...the rule is that if you don't work, they don't pull your boat. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... We pulled 64 boats between 8:30 am until 4:30 How many travellifts does your marina have? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
i'm impressed.
we haul about 75 boats in 2 months! tide is an issue. boat is still in the H20 but i've mostly called it quits for the year. i may try to get out on one more day....we'll see always next season to look forward to................. gf. "katysails" wrote in message ... We pull right at the yacht club with a crane...Torr4esen's Marine comes over with a crane, 3 high-lo's and 2 trailer/tractor combos and it's like a giant chain reaction....everyone is divided into teams...we were on the cradle team....had to locate the cradle up next in the queue and point it out to the hi=lo guy who then loaded it into a waiting trailer...then the crew positions and the trailer takes off for the staging area to be loaded with a boat...then there's a crew on the wall where they lift out and a crew on the adjacent dock...you back up into the area with your boat and throw lines off 4 corners...the crane drops the slings down and they position the slings and voila! up and out and onto the trailer....then they take you to your parking place and the power washer crew comes and blasts all the grunge and mussels off the bottom...the rule is that if you don't work, they don't pull your boat. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... We pulled 64 boats between 8:30 am until 4:30 How many travellifts does your marina have? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
then they take you to your parking
place and the power washer crew comes and blasts all the grunge and mussels off the bottom...the rule is that if you don't work, they don't pull your boat. 1. Why would anyone with a sailboat have grunge and mussels on the bottom? How do they sail? 2. If you have to work is the hull out free? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... then they take you to your parking place and the power washer crew comes and blasts all the grunge and mussels Because Miskegon Lake os dirty, because we had the hugest algae bloom I've ever seen, and because zebra mussels don't care what they attach to....everyone has them...they are not an exclusive animal... and haulout and storage are GREATLY reduced from the prices ar local marinas...enough that mist members take advantage of the situation,,, off the bottom...the rule is that if you don't work, they don't pull your boat. 1. Why would anyone with a sailboat have grunge and mussels on the bottom? How do they sail? 2. If you have to work is the hull out free? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
and because zebra mussels don't care what they attach
to....everyone has them.. Doesn't anyone get under the boat and wipe it off during the season? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:51:22 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap: Because Miskegon Lake os dirty, because we had the hugest algae bloom I've ever seen, and because zebra mussels don't care what they attach to....everyone has them...they are not an exclusive animal... I've never seen zebra mussels on a boat that had bottom paint. And I sail on Lake Erie. If you put your hand in the water for ten minutes, you'll have zebra mussels growing on it. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Yes...if the water is warm enough...Lake MI never got much above 65 this
year....i did scrub away a couple of times with the scrub brush as far as I could reach...zebra mussels are not like your ocean mussels...they are very tiny...big ones are not as big as a thumb nail...and they are razor sharp so you have to be very careful of slicing yourself and getting an infection.... "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... and because zebra mussels don't care what they attach to....everyone has them.. Doesn't anyone get under the boat and wipe it off during the season? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra
mussels....Muskegon Lake is an industrial lake...we've noticed that our bottom paint doesn't;t last as long as it did up at White Lake, which is surprising since there were all those dilute contaminants from the old Hooker plant there and the stuff from the tannery....no we've got a paper mill... "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:51:22 GMT, "katysails" wrote this crap: Because Miskegon Lake os dirty, because we had the hugest algae bloom I've ever seen, and because zebra mussels don't care what they attach to....everyone has them...they are not an exclusive animal... I've never seen zebra mussels on a boat that had bottom paint. And I sail on Lake Erie. If you put your hand in the water for ten minutes, you'll have zebra mussels growing on it. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"katysails" wrote in message ... We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels.... Next year try some VC 17. Scotty |
we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels
VC18 or VC18 Offshore? The non Offshore has no antifouling properties. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:21:32 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap: We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels....Muskegon Lake is an industrial lake...we've noticed that our bottom paint doesn't;t last as long as it did up at White Lake, which is surprising since there were all those dilute contaminants from the old Hooker plant there and the stuff from the tannery....no we've got a paper mill... Let's talk more about those hookers. Are they near the lake? Any of them have most of their teeth? Are there some with less disgusting tatoos? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Horass can only get it with hookers with tatoos and no teeth... TMI
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:21:32 GMT, "katysails" wrote this crap: We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels....Muskegon Lake is an industrial lake...we've noticed that our bottom paint doesn't;t last as long as it did up at White Lake, which is surprising since there were all those dilute contaminants from the old Hooker plant there and the stuff from the tannery....no we've got a paper mill... Let's talk more about those hookers. Are they near the lake? Any of them have most of their teeth? Are there some with less disgusting tatoos? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:27:07 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Horass can only get it with hookers with tatoos and no teeth... TMI You jealous? Trying to go straight? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
katysails wrote:
Another sailing season gone by the wayside...the boat is out...it rained, snowed, haled, and blew all day...the row out to the mooring at 8 am was very interesting. Gale warnings up...fortunately the wind was behind us but we almost overshot the stern! Yeah, but just think... they'll give you a waiver to enter the Chi-Mac if you've crossed Lake Michigan in a dinghy... ... We pulled 64 boats between 8:30 am until 4:30 om... That sounds like a lot of work. How many lifts? ... now we're defrosting our feet and hoping tomorrow will be warmer so we can go play with the pink Kool-Aid.... Avoid the Kool-Aid. It destroys your taste in music & makes you talk to the cartoon people living in the curtains. DSK |
I'm sure some of the tattoos are nice, but I prefer women, not
transvestites. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:27:07 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: Horass can only get it with hookers with tatoos and no teeth... TMI You jealous? Trying to go straight? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Was a typo....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote in message ... We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels.... Next year try some VC 17. Scotty |
Why would anyone in fresh water use VC Offshore?????
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels VC18 or VC18 Offshore? The non Offshore has no antifouling properties. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Horvy,
I'm sure the White Lake variety would suit you just fine.... "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:21:32 GMT, "katysails" wrote this crap: We all have bottom paint...we use VC 18 every year...and we all had zebra mussels....Muskegon Lake is an industrial lake...we've noticed that our bottom paint doesn't;t last as long as it did up at White Lake, which is surprising since there were all those dilute contaminants from the old Hooker plant there and the stuff from the tannery....no we've got a paper mill... Let's talk more about those hookers. Are they near the lake? Any of them have most of their teeth? Are there some with less disgusting tatoos? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Muskegon Chrinicle had an article yesterday about the algae bloom that has
terorized us the past 2 months,....turns out it's the blue green variety and caused by the Zebra mussels...and is quite toxic (monocystins...of the kill your liver type...) They've just put up warnings to not wade, swim, or let your dog go in the water, and to not eat any fish out of Muskegon lake, White Lake or Lake Leelenau, the 3 affected lakes. Of course, we've now had several freeZes and the stuff is dying off...ya think they could have determined this when the stuff was in full bloom???? They've got NOAA, U of M and GVSU all working on the problem.... |
Why would anyone in fresh water use VC Offshore?????
Um .................. So they wouldn't get zebra mussles maybe. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
"katysails" wrote in message Muskegon Chrinicle had an article yesterday about the algae bloom that has terorized us the past 2 months,....turns out it's the blue green variety and caused by the Zebra mussels...and is quite toxic (monocystins...of the kill your liver type...) They've just put up warnings to not wade, swim, or let your dog go in the water, and to not eat any fish out of Muskegon lake, White Lake or Lake Leelenau, the 3 affected lakes. Of course, we've now had several freeZes and the stuff is dying off...ya think they could have determined this when the stuff was in full bloom???? They've got NOAA, U of M and GVSU all working on the problem.... A microbiologist from MSU was on TV today and stated that the fear of the toxins was grossly overstated in that Muskegon Chronicle article. He said you'd probably have to ingest a substantial amount of the actual algal colonies to get enough to make yourself ill. Wading won't do it. Dogs, OTOH, should be kept out of the water, as they tend to drink a lot while swimming. No, Chopper, stay on the dock. Oh wait! You don't have a dock, do ya? :-) Max |
Or a dog that goes in the water....
"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "katysails" wrote in message Muskegon Chrinicle had an article yesterday about the algae bloom that has terorized us the past 2 months,....turns out it's the blue green variety and caused by the Zebra mussels...and is quite toxic (monocystins...of the kill your liver type...) They've just put up warnings to not wade, swim, or let your dog go in the water, and to not eat any fish out of Muskegon lake, White Lake or Lake Leelenau, the 3 affected lakes. Of course, we've now had several freeZes and the stuff is dying off...ya think they could have determined this when the stuff was in full bloom???? They've got NOAA, U of M and GVSU all working on the problem.... A microbiologist from MSU was on TV today and stated that the fear of the toxins was grossly overstated in that Muskegon Chronicle article. He said you'd probably have to ingest a substantial amount of the actual algal colonies to get enough to make yourself ill. Wading won't do it. Dogs, OTOH, should be kept out of the water, as they tend to drink a lot while swimming. No, Chopper, stay on the dock. Oh wait! You don't have a dock, do ya? :-) Max |
NC Offshore is fine for salt water but doeas little in fresh water....it is
not the bottom paint of choice here...VC 17 works fine except for the little problem of the blue green algae this year....I think that's a freshwater phenomenon....as are zebra mussels....read the flyers on VC Offshire...it is not meant for freshwater "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Why would anyone in fresh water use VC Offshore????? Um .................. So they wouldn't get zebra mussles maybe. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
katysails wrote:
Nah...we never drink water from the tank... How do you "never" drink from the tank? .... but the dog does...is that why he does those funny things??? Dogs think *we* do funny things. It's not for me to say who is right! "Did you drink the Kool-Aid" was sort of a hippy joke. At one point I read quite a lot about LSD and it was used experimentally on dogs... cats too. It's hard to tell if a dog is hallucinating... most observers agreed that they seemed to be. Makes me wonder if they were hallucinating smells. Side note- A tripping cat is often afraid of mice. At least, that's what the researchers wrote. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message ... katysails wrote: Nah...we never drink water from the tank... How do you "never" drink from the tank? I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. Scotty |
read the flyers on VC Offshire...it is
not meant for freshwater Kate, the Offshore is for hard growth. Zebra mussles are hard growth. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Scott Vernon wrote:
I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. That seems redundant. Why not get a drinking water filter? We have one, it's not perfect but it's better than the tap water in many places. Fresh Water Doug King |
Thought about it.
"DSK" wrote in message .. . Scott Vernon wrote: I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. That seems redundant. Why not get a drinking water filter? We have one, it's not perfect but it's better than the tap water in many places. Fresh Water Doug King |
"katysails" wrote in message Or a dog that goes in the water.... We should be so lucky. Niki won't stay outta the drink. Max |
Boatyards around here do not recommend it at all.....
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... read the flyers on VC Offshire...it is not meant for freshwater Kate, the Offshore is for hard growth. Zebra mussles are hard growth. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
I thought you were referring to the possibility of using real anti-freeze,
which also causes hallucinations (and eventually death...) Wouldn't know about acid but I do know that horses get really weird when you blow pot smoke up their nostrils.... We have gallon jugs of water that we fill at home or at the dock on the boat so we don't drink from the tank....even with chlorine drops in it, i still do not trust it and it is usually lukewarm...yech..... My dog does not think we're weird...he thinks we're God..... "DSK" wrote in message ... katysails wrote: Nah...we never drink water from the tank... How do you "never" drink from the tank? .... but the dog does...is that why he does those funny things??? Dogs think *we* do funny things. It's not for me to say who is right! "Did you drink the Kool-Aid" was sort of a hippy joke. At one point I read quite a lot about LSD and it was used experimentally on dogs... cats too. It's hard to tell if a dog is hallucinating... most observers agreed that they seemed to be. Makes me wonder if they were hallucinating smells. Side note- A tripping cat is often afraid of mice. At least, that's what the researchers wrote. DSK |
If we're down on the beach he'll wade in without prompt, but he has never
shown any desire to leap off the boat, except to leap into the dinght (which can be a very exciting event...and sometimes damp...)but hey, he doesn't chase rabbits or squirrels either...he hasn't forgotten that cocker spaniels are evil devils, though...the other day we were walking by a yard where a young one ran up to the fence and he peed on it....he will never forget Reggie.... "Maxprop" wrote in message .net... "katysails" wrote in message Or a dog that goes in the water.... We should be so lucky. Niki won't stay outta the drink. Max |
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:25:40 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap: "DSK" wrote in message .. . katysails wrote: Nah...we never drink water from the tank... How do you "never" drink from the tank? I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. Poor guy. We drink beer and rum. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:25:40 -0400, "Scott Vernon" wrote this crap: "DSK" wrote in message .. . katysails wrote: Nah...we never drink water from the tank... How do you "never" drink from the tank? I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. Poor guy. We drink beer and rum. while sailing? |
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:05:56 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap: How do you "never" drink from the tank? I don't drink from my tank. I carry bottled water for drinking, use the tank water for everything else. Poor guy. We drink beer and rum. while sailing? While breathing. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"katysails" wrote in message If we're down on the beach he'll wade in without prompt, but he has never shown any desire to leap off the boat, except to leap into the dinght (which can be a very exciting event...and sometimes damp...)but hey, he doesn't chase rabbits or squirrels either...he hasn't forgotten that cocker spaniels are evil devils, though...the other day we were walking by a yard where a young one ran up to the fence and he peed on it....he will never forget Reggie.... Nor will anyone on A-dock. He apparently left a calling card on the steps just above the ramp and it never got cleaned off. I don't know why Don bothered to take him to the dog walk area. He never made it, as far as I could tell. Max |
katysails wrote:
I thought you were referring to the possibility of using real anti-freeze, which also causes hallucinations (and eventually death...) Yes, it's dangerous stuff. Supposedly it tastes good to dogs, too. ... Wouldn't know about acid but I do know that horses get really weird when you blow pot smoke up their nostrils.... Do tell. Was this in a research report that you read? We have gallon jugs of water that we fill at home or at the dock on the boat so we don't drink from the tank....even with chlorine drops in it, i still do not trust it and it is usually lukewarm...yech..... If you treat the system right, it'll be fine. We have a water filter for drinking water, but the water out of the tank is no different from the tap water. Is the U.S. turning into one of those 3rd world countries where you can't drink the water? My dog does not think we're weird...he thinks we're God..... We had Chesapeakes for years... they're too smart and too strong-willed to fall for that. Our current dog is a pound hound and I'm not sure of his religious beliefs... he is learning, though. DSK |
"DSK" wrote ...
If you treat the system right, it'll be fine. We have a water filter for drinking water, but the water out of the tank is no different from the tap water. Is the U.S. turning into one of those 3rd world countries where you can't drink the water? We have a well here at home, great tasting water. I don't like 'city water'. I know it's clean, but I don't like the taste. So I fill a few jugs at home to take on the boat. Scotty |
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