On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:10:20 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:


How could anyone like you with nostrils burned
out by the white powder smell anything anyway?



I never take drugs, dumbass. I don't even take the pain pills
prescribed by my doctor, dumbass.






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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:49:32 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I've installed many a fuel line on boilers with soft copper tubing (#1 & #2
fuel). There are also *fused* valves available (fire-o-matic) that will shut
off fuel supply in an intense heat situation. I'll defer to Doug's expertise
in this situation though.
To the OP, if you're going with metal tubing, I'd recommend a flared
connection, or at least stay away from compression (nut and ferrule) types,
which tend to leak with vibration.
Scout


If you're worried about fire protection, and you want leak-proof
metal. I would use stainless steel braided aircraft hose.

It's also much easier to install than a rigid tube.





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"Scott Vernon" wrote...
I was told by my surveyor to use type A-1 hose for fuel lines. it's
supposed to 'melt' (or something like that) and seal itself in a fire
, thus preventing fuel from feeding the fire.

That's interesting. I have not heard of self-sealing hose.

Scout wrote:
I've installed many a fuel line on boilers with soft copper tubing (#1 & #2
fuel). There are also *fused* valves available (fire-o-matic) that will shut
off fuel supply in an intense heat situation. I'll defer to Doug's expertise
in this situation though.

(blush) my "expertise"?!?

Anyway there is not a fire-o-matic valve that I know of approved for
marine use... I'd guess the issue is corrosive environment + vibration,
as you mention.


To the OP, if you're going with metal tubing, I'd recommend a flared
connection, or at least stay away from compression (nut and ferrule) types,
which tend to leak with vibration.

Flares are a lot easier for disconnecting & reconnecting, too... but
they are a bit more work to make up the first time and have a lower
tolerance for error.

I got yelled at by our engine guru for using flare connections, he
claimed they're "not approved" for marine fuel... not sure if this is
true, the ABS thinks they're OK (or did 15 years ago) and I don't have
current ABYC specs.

It did take a heck of a lot of work and a spoiled first attempt to fit
in our new fuel supply line, using 1/2"OD seamless copper tubing. There
was one leak that was very persnickety to find & fix... diesel tends to
run along the bottom of the lines and drip far away from the actual leak.

One problem with boats that have a persistent diesel smell, even once
the leak has been fixed and the engine & pan cleaned up, is that the
stuff finds it's way into remote pockets of bilge and grows nasty grunge.

DSK

"DSK" wrote
(blush) my "expertise"?!?

My license limits my work to stationary equipment only ; )
Scout

Isn't the braiding just for preventing bursting and slicing of a softer
inner material? what material is used for the inside lining?
Scout

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:49:32 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I've installed many a fuel line on boilers with soft copper tubing (#1 &
#2
fuel). There are also *fused* valves available (fire-o-matic) that will
shut
off fuel supply in an intense heat situation. I'll defer to Doug's
expertise
in this situation though.
To the OP, if you're going with metal tubing, I'd recommend a flared
connection, or at least stay away from compression (nut and ferrule)
types,
which tend to leak with vibration.
Scout


If you're worried about fire protection, and you want leak-proof
metal. I would use stainless steel braided aircraft hose.

It's also much easier to install than a rigid tube.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

rubber

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Isn't the braiding just for preventing bursting and slicing of a
softer
inner material? what material is used for the inside lining?
Scout

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:49:32 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I've installed many a fuel line on boilers with soft copper tubing
(#1 &
#2
fuel). There are also *fused* valves available (fire-o-matic) that
will
shut
off fuel supply in an intense heat situation. I'll defer to Doug's
expertise
in this situation though.
To the OP, if you're going with metal tubing, I'd recommend a
flared
connection, or at least stay away from compression (nut and
ferrule)
types,
which tend to leak with vibration.
Scout


If you're worried about fire protection, and you want leak-proof
metal. I would use stainless steel braided aircraft hose.

It's also much easier to install than a rigid tube.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

didn't think rubber held up to diesel

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
rubber

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Isn't the braiding just for preventing bursting and slicing of a
softer
inner material? what material is used for the inside lining?
Scout

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:49:32 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I've installed many a fuel line on boilers with soft copper tubing
(#1 &
#2
fuel). There are also *fused* valves available (fire-o-matic) that
will
shut
off fuel supply in an intense heat situation. I'll defer to Doug's
expertise
in this situation though.
To the OP, if you're going with metal tubing, I'd recommend a
flared
connection, or at least stay away from compression (nut and
ferrule)
types,
which tend to leak with vibration.
Scout


If you're worried about fire protection, and you want leak-proof
metal. I would use stainless steel braided aircraft hose.

It's also much easier to install than a rigid tube.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
"Scott Vernon" wrote...
I was told by my surveyor to use type A-1 hose for fuel lines.
it's
supposed to 'melt' (or something like that) and seal itself in a
fire
, thus preventing fuel from feeding the fire.

That's interesting. I have not heard of self-sealing hose.

Well, that's what he told me. A google search turns up nothing, except
that A-1 is fire retardant.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:48:41 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

Isn't the braiding just for preventing bursting and slicing of a softer
inner material? what material is used for the inside lining?
Scout


Mine is gold plated. But I only want the best.





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"Horvath" wrote in message ...
Mine is gold plated.

Trying to come on to Gaynz?

CN