Holy Cripes Horass,

I thought your Estate & Manson was of enough size as not to worry about
Power Lines? Are you lying from before or lying now? (grinning)

Ole Thom

John W. Bienko wrote:
The danger is from
Electromagnetic Radiation..
the subject and the danger to humans is well documented.

At first glance this is a no-brainer - of course the problem is EM
radiation. What else? Falling towers?

However, some reports are claiming the real culprit is static
electricity. This could explain why there is so little evidence that
low frequency EM is dangerous.

Nuff said on that point...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 13:57:35 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

There's this guy not too far away from us that had a small pony farm where
the high tensiles run down his property. He couldn't keep the ponies
shod...they would throw their shows within a week of having them put

What bull****. I know plenty of people living near high voltage
lines, (including me.) There's no harmful effects.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jeff,
I think the static theory ties in with the theory that the lines cause a
concentration of radon in homes near the lines. The way I read it the house
becomes like a grid in a giant electronic air cleaner. Don't think this was
verified though.
Scout


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
John W. Bienko wrote:
The danger is from Electromagnetic Radiation.. the subject and the danger
to humans is well documented.

At first glance this is a no-brainer - of course the problem is EM
radiation. What else? Falling towers?

However, some reports are claiming the real culprit is static electricity.
This could explain why there is so little evidence that low frequency EM
is dangerous.

On 2 Jan 2005 20:16:33 GMT, (John W. Bienko)
wrote this crap:


The danger is from
Electromagnetic Radiation..
the subject and the danger to humans is well documented.


You get more electromagnetic radiation from the sun.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:19:17 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

look on the bright side, you could throw an extension cord over them
and have free power for your house.


If you don't knock out the power grid.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:33:41 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Holy Cripes Horass,

I thought your Estate & Manson was of enough size as not to worry about
Power Lines? Are you lying from before or lying now? (grinning)

Ole Thom


Everybody lives near power lines. There's some going down most
streets.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

There's no power lines within half a mile of my home. (At least for now.)

CN


"Horvath" scribbled

Everybody lives near power lines. There's some going down most
streets.

"JG" wrote in message
...
I believe the Swedes did a study that showed there were know ill effects on
people, but I would pass on it if it were overhead. I believe their study
was directly overhead. 200 feet probably wouldn't be an issue. More
investigation is, of course, warranted.

Makes one wonder about the magic magnetic bracelets and bands people wear
for pain management. Why would magnetic flux be a miracle cure when produced
by a permanent magnet but not when produced by current flow?
Scout

Living near the end of the line isn't that good. At bends and the end of the
line the fringing fields (electric) are greater. There's also current
induced in the ground from the line. The crackling noise you hear is
electrical arcing which produces ozone. There's also current pulses from
lightning discharges on the line and there's the magnetic field.

The biological effects are many. At 60 Hz you have the alpha dispersion
dielectric of mammalian tissue. Your body has a dielectric constant of 6,000
to 30,000 at 60 Hz. That means your body easily polarizes to the 60 Hz field
and the electric field is increases in the body by the dielectric constant,
ie 6,000 - 30,000 times. The polarization is caused by large molecules in
the body moving to align with the applied electric field, much the way
magnets polarize with each other. Your bones are piezoelectric, squeeze
them and they generate electricity. Apply an electric field and they will
actually change length. If you receive an electric field pulse during the
refractory period of the cardiac cycle your heart will stop. People are
frequently killed by lightning strikes that never hit them, the induced
current from the nearby strike stop the heart. An intense 60 Hz electric
field can slow, stop or even reverse chemical wave propagation in the body.
Your heart and nerves work on chemical waves. That means it can change nerve
conduction, intracellular and extracellular potentials.

As far as verfiable real effects, people prone to siezures are very
susceptible in small magnetic and electric fields. Cardiac problems are also
verifiable, as are nerve problems. Other effects are probably long term and
are things such as stress, headaches, malaise, etc.

I also know of cases of people getting shocked from swing sets, bicycle
handle bars and lawn mower handles under powerlines. I bet a garden hose
would be fun, or think of being in a swimming pool full of chlorine ions. If
you move under the power line at speeds greater than 10 mph you can induce
tens of thousands of volts into yourself , car, bicycle, etc.

Read the CRC "Handbook of Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields" by
Polk and Postow for the physics and tissue measurements.

I can find plenty of other references too.

Hell is full of powerlines!

Amen!

Bob Crantz



"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'd like to hear opinions regarding supposed adverse health effects of a
close proximity to high tension wires.
I'm looking at a nice piece of land on the side of a mountain, about 200
feet from the lines. I'm inclined to think a cell phone is more dangerous.
I
know we have a few here who are knowledgeable in the field (no pun
intended).
Scout