Scout wrote:
I'd like to hear opinions regarding supposed adverse health effects of a
close proximity to high tension wires.
I'm looking at a nice piece of land on the side of a mountain, about 200
feet from the lines. I'm inclined to think a cell phone is more dangerous. I
know we have a few here who are knowledgeable in the field (no pun
intended).

There's never been a definitive statistical link between proximity to
high tension power transmission lines and any sort of health problem.

There are all sorts of studies that vaguely infer such links, and I'm
not one to say that there isn't any effect... especially when there is
such a huge variation in people. IMHO 99.99% of people would be totally
unaffected... but that doesn't help you if you're one of the few!

A plus of buying property adjacent to a power line easment is that you
get the effect of a lot of free land, a really nice hiking trail, plus a
secondary access. A minus is that a lot of people believe that
electricity causes brain cancer, or something.

Hope this helps
Doug "A Statistical Universe Of One" King

Scout wrote:
The hard part is finding a blender that runs on 33,000 volts.

Think how quickly you could charge up your boat battery...

DSK

Photovoltaics, storage batteries, inverter.

CN

"Horvath" wrote in message ...
Then how do you get the power for your computer?
!

Psssst.....Doug, he doesn't have a boat.

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
The hard part is finding a blender that runs on 33,000 volts.

Think how quickly you could charge up your boat battery...

DSK

Many replies are so full of urban myth that I must restart.
Lets start with health effects rumored to be caused by
electricity (and ignore that original study was later
discovered with gross statistical errors). Many immediately
assume danger was in high tension wires. They first failed to
learn or demand the numbers. Those health effects, if exist,
were more likely from something that creates stronger fields -
such as wires underneath floor and inside walls, from circuit
breaker box to central air conditioner. Those who jump to
conclusions immediately assumed the study was about high
tension wires.

'Those' include many news anchors who refuse to first do what
all responsible anchormen are suppose to do - verify the story
- hold the reporter's feet to the fire - do as Walter Cronkite
did so routinely and so viciously. Immediately, the reply
from many posters is suspect - having confused health risk
warnings about something else - then assuming it must be high
tension wires. They assumed as many irresponsible news
anchors did on local news shows. Urban myth is now rampant
even in this thread.

We take it farther. Being an enemy of junk science
reasoning, I first took a meter. I got numbers. Magnetic
fields generated by an automobile dashboard may be higher that
those from high tension wires. So you tell me where dangers
exist? Already I am posting information that negates many of
your replies. IOW too many people have 'knowledge' before
they learn facts. They fail to temper their assumptions with
numbers.

Among the numbers not provided were line voltages. 128 kV?
230 kV? 765 kV? These also define other conditions such a
noise. What is on those electric distribution towers? Bottom
line. You need numbers before anyone can properly answer your
question. Lets not forget, the original Scandinavian study
that started all this hype was later discovered to have
manipulated the statistics. This was discovered by other
scientists who finally got access to the raw data. IOW hype
continued until numbers were revealed. Any yet the
speculation continues here - again without numbers.

Too many never heard the whole story which is why they even
blame high voltage towers rather than low voltage, high
current wires. The original study blamed the latter.
Therefore others here blamed the former. Wires with larger
fields - that can even distort computer CRT screens in some
rooms - should be of greater concern.

Scout wrote:
I'd like to hear opinions regarding supposed adverse health effects
of a close proximity to high tension wires. I'm looking at a nice
piece of land on the side of a mountain, about 200 feet from the
lines. I'm inclined to think a cell phone is more dangerous. I
know we have a few here who are knowledgeable in the field (no
pun intended).
Scout

Join the crowd, sweetie, everybody loves the Good Captain Neal®


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:n18Cd.32272$F25.1456@okepread07...
No kidding? (And here I thought I loved him...)

LP

"katysails" wrote:
He steals batteries from K-Mart...

"Horvath" wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:38:02 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

There's no power lines within half a mile of my home. (At least for
now.)


Then how do you get the power for your computer?



CN


"Horvath" scribbled

Everybody lives near power lines. There's some going down most
streets.



Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Warrantees! The word is warrantees.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
He steals batteries from K-Mart...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:38:02 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

There's no power lines within half a mile of my home. (At least for
now.)


Then how do you get the power for your computer?



CN


"Horvath" scribbled

Everybody lives near power lines. There's some going down most
streets.



Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The flux must cross a closed conductor (loop) for current to flow. But that
is pertinent to a permanent magnet.

Atoms have magnetic fields from the electron orbits. The electron is in
motion around the nucleus in a closed path. The electron, through its
motion, is a current and generates a magnetic field. If enough atoms are in
correct alignemnt you have a net magnetic field.

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I thought the flux had to cross a conductor for current to flow.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
link.net...
A permanent magnet does have current flow.


"Scout" wrote in message
...
"JG" wrote in message
...
I believe the Swedes did a study that showed there were know ill
effects
on
people, but I would pass on it if it were overhead. I believe their
study
was directly overhead. 200 feet probably wouldn't be an issue. More
investigation is, of course, warranted.

Makes one wonder about the magic magnetic bracelets and bands people
wear
for pain management. Why would magnetic flux be a miracle cure when
produced
by a permanent magnet but not when produced by current flow?
Scout

Where are you facts to support your assertions? You infer the Leeper study
and then don't mention it by name.

You completely fail to even consider molecular resonance.

You fail to consider aggregate resonance of the human body.

You cite the complexity of field conditions, which is true, but fail to cite
controlled laboratory experiments which can isolate cause and effect and
show the effects of electric and magnetic fields on biological systems.
Here's just one example of magnetic fields used to control brain chemistry:

http://nursing.vanderbilt.edu/pain/r.../pub-prot.html

Here's some Q&A:

http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop/powerlin...r-FAQ/toc.html

Note the conclusions in the article say powerlines can't hurt you as far as
cancer and leukemia go.

Just for fun, take a light steel or copper cable/wire (uninsulated)and use
it as a jump rope with your bare, sweaty hands under a power line. Try it at
different distances and orientations from the line.




"w_tom" wrote in message
...
Many replies are so full of urban myth that I must restart.
Lets start with health effects rumored to be caused by
electricity (and ignore that original study was later
discovered with gross statistical errors). Many immediately
assume danger was in high tension wires. They first failed to
learn or demand the numbers. Those health effects, if exist,
were more likely from something that creates stronger fields -
such as wires underneath floor and inside walls, from circuit
breaker box to central air conditioner. Those who jump to
conclusions immediately assumed the study was about high
tension wires.

'Those' include many news anchors who refuse to first do what
all responsible anchormen are suppose to do - verify the story
- hold the reporter's feet to the fire - do as Walter Cronkite
did so routinely and so viciously. Immediately, the reply
from many posters is suspect - having confused health risk
warnings about something else - then assuming it must be high
tension wires. They assumed as many irresponsible news
anchors did on local news shows. Urban myth is now rampant
even in this thread.

We take it farther. Being an enemy of junk science
reasoning, I first took a meter. I got numbers. Magnetic
fields generated by an automobile dashboard may be higher that
those from high tension wires. So you tell me where dangers
exist? Already I am posting information that negates many of
your replies. IOW too many people have 'knowledge' before
they learn facts. They fail to temper their assumptions with
numbers.

Among the numbers not provided were line voltages. 128 kV?
230 kV? 765 kV? These also define other conditions such a
noise. What is on those electric distribution towers? Bottom
line. You need numbers before anyone can properly answer your
question. Lets not forget, the original Scandinavian study
that started all this hype was later discovered to have
manipulated the statistics. This was discovered by other
scientists who finally got access to the raw data. IOW hype
continued until numbers were revealed. Any yet the
speculation continues here - again without numbers.

Too many never heard the whole story which is why they even
blame high voltage towers rather than low voltage, high
current wires. The original study blamed the latter.
Therefore others here blamed the former. Wires with larger
fields - that can even distort computer CRT screens in some
rooms - should be of greater concern.

Scout wrote:
I'd like to hear opinions regarding supposed adverse health effects
of a close proximity to high tension wires. I'm looking at a nice
piece of land on the side of a mountain, about 200 feet from the
lines. I'm inclined to think a cell phone is more dangerous. I
know we have a few here who are knowledgeable in the field (no
pun intended).
Scout

http://ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections...003-212054.pdf



"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'd like to hear opinions regarding supposed adverse health effects of a
close proximity to high tension wires.
I'm looking at a nice piece of land on the side of a mountain, about 200
feet from the lines. I'm inclined to think a cell phone is more dangerous.
I
know we have a few here who are knowledgeable in the field (no pun
intended).
Scout