"Joe" wrote in message
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My zincs dont waste away very fast because I have no stray voltage in
my hull. My hull is isolated from all electrical currents bith AC & DC.
I also use a isolater to keep any stray voltage from other vessels of
the dock power from causing any damage. My zincs are 20 pound tear
drops and will last 3 years without 50%loss.

Your neigbouring vessels probably do have stray voltage... and since you see
fit to use a dock like some Power Boater... instead of a Mooring... you are
at risk from them.


Way more seafood if you can hire someone brave enough to challenge the
N. Atlantic to go and get it for you. Here we go and get it for free.

I just walk down to Coolen's Dock and ask Tommy.... I get whatever seafood
I want free as well.


While your boat dries and and starts to shrink and crack and hogg we
will be sailing the gulf or bays year round.

What makes you think a fibreglass vessel shrinks on dry dock?? It
doesn't..... and your one trip out for a 10 mile tour every week hardly
constitutes a lot of use... lets face the facts.... both you and Neal use
your boats like floating trailer homes. It probably takes you 4 hours just
to pack and straighten the vessel for your weekly 4 hour sail.

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
My zincs dont waste away very fast because I have no stray voltage
in
my hull. My hull is isolated from all electrical currents bith AC &
DC.
I also use a isolater to keep any stray voltage from other vessels
of
the dock power from causing any damage. My zincs are 20 pound tear
drops and will last 3 years without 50%loss.

Your neigbouring vessels probably do have stray voltage... and since
you see
fit to use a dock like some Power Boater... instead of a Mooring...
you are
at risk from them.

Did you miss the part about my voltage isolater? plu I measure stray
voltlage here all the time. Not an issue.


Way more seafood if you can hire someone brave enough to challenge
the
N. Atlantic to go and get it for you. Here we go and get it for
free.

I just walk down to Coolen's Dock and ask Tommy.... I get whatever
seafood
I want free as well.

Here I sail at night and pull a 25 foot sport net that quickly fills
with the freshest bounty the bay has to offer.





While your boat dries and and starts to shrink and crack and hogg
we
will be sailing the gulf or bays year round.

What makes you think a fibreglass vessel shrinks on dry dock??

Because all the moisture contained in plastic boat blisters freeze..
pop...shrink into craters that need to be ground and dug out.. filled
faired painted just to do it all again in 6 mo when you have to haul
again. Not to mention all the soaked core freezing and buckling your
bulworks and decks. Then you have to wait for warm enough weather so
all your plastic putties and goups can set up and dry. If you had a
steel boat you could weld in the coldest weather if needed.

BTW when you going to post pictures of the superior steel vessel under
construction in your local neighborhood?


It
doesn't..... and your one trip out for a 10 mile tour every week
hardly
constitutes a lot of use... lets face the facts.... both you and Neal
use
your boats like floating trailer homes.


RedCloud is my home and outclasses any trailor parked in Canaduh or
the USA.


It probably takes you 4 hours just
to pack and straighten the vessel for your weekly 4 hour sail.


More like 10 min..


Joe

CM

"Lady Pilot" posted:

Nah, now that I'm gone he will turn into the asshole he's always been...

LP


Not nice. Not nice at all.

"The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life,
but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit." --- Proverbs 15:4

CN

"Joe" wrote in message

BTW when you going to post pictures of the superior steel vessel under
construction in your local neighborhood?

Damn..... I went by there 3 times so far and forgot the camera. I'll do it
tomorrow. I'll post a binary to the group... just because I know it will
**** off the yokels on phone lines or with P3 pieces of junk for computers!

I've been interested in reviewing the costs.... If I took some photos maybe
we could get a thread going on what it would take and cost to have the
vessel sea ready!

CM

You and I think alike in many ways. We may differ as to which is the
proper hull material for a small blue water yacht but we definitely
have our priorities straight in that we choose to live aboard rather
than ashore. We choose freedom over servitude, challenge over
sloth, variety over hum-drum, simplicity over complication, being in
control over being controlled and Mother Nature over works of man.

Ours is the life of a nomad, a warrior, a man in harmony who is not
afraid to face a variety of challenges and to control our own destiny
while employing any number of learned and innate skills to keep our
home and conveyance operational and reliable so that, by the work
of our own hands we trust our very lives. We are men and proud men
at that.

Would that there were more such men here and in the world to keep
it from being the mean and tawdry place it has become of late.

Hope to see you, your stout ship and fine crew on the high seas one of
these days.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal



"Joe" penned the following perceptive words:

Indeed to suffer a sailing (season) less 6+ mo a years, and to have to
wrap your boat is down right lubbery. To own a boat that is not capable
of living aboard... and not living aboard... put you in the class of the
weekend warriors. And to not have the seatime or ambition to sit for a
Capt. ticket shows no ambition or savy of the way of the sea.....and
again is lubbery. How they can sleep at night without being rocked to
bed is beyond me. Anyone who spends more time ashore than afloat is
lubbery IMHO.

Joe

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:NBHSd.25393$NN.17801@edtnps89...
This would really mean something if the pair of you weren't moored or docked
for 99% of the time. Let's face it.... your time aboard would be better
spent if you both hauled your vessels and did some maintenance for a change.

My vessel was hauled two years ago and the bottom paint (five coats) is still
in fine shape. All that collects on it is some slime that comes off easily with a
soft brush. As for maintenance, what maintenance is needed on a boat that
has four good thru-hulls as drains and nothing more to maintain - not a shaft,
strut,zinc nor a knot log or depth sounder thru-hull?

As an aircraft is better off in the air a sailbot is more lovingly cradled
by water than any contrivance that props her up ashore concentrating
forces in small areas that were not designed to take such forces.

My vessel will age far less drastically than either of yours. Cut The
Mustard no doubt has a saturated hull from extended immersion and Red Cloud
is rusting on a wet berth.

Cut the Mustard's hull is rock solid and will outlast her captain. Any sailor
who worries about a vessel aging to the extent that he puts the vessel up
on shore and lookes at it six or seven months a year is no sailor. Any real
sailor would rather his vessel age gracefully via constant use tempered
with constant care than age slowly with lack of use. Lack of use is anathema
to real sailors and real vessel. Your vessel is treated more like a showboat
and that is truly an insult. A real vessel is a working vessel. Any part-time,
lubberly efforts of forestall the natural order of things is but an exercise
in futility.

Hauling out every season allows me to inspect and maintain my vessel's hull
and submerged components. While I change zincs annually... Joe's 200 zincs
are deteriorating daily. While Capt. Neal's spongy hull is becoming infested
with a marine growth to rival a coral reef.... mine is clear, smooth, hard
and crustacean free. While Cut the Mustard's hull is discolouring...
Overproof's hull is waxed to the waterline and so shiny you can shave in the
reflection. While the pair of you can only entertain wet maintenance.... I
have the luxury of seasonal dry dock overhauls and full access for
maintenance & repairs.

As little as you use your vessel it is a wonder it needs any maintenance at
all. I guess blundering around drunk on week-ends takes it's toll. Boats
that are sailed regularly and year-round are boats that are handled well
while week-end warrior boats are often abused beyond belief. Is it any
wonder why you spend so much time maintaining your vessel?

You pay a price for the convenience of warm weather sailing.... grossly
polluted locations, a plethora of other boats to contend with, advanced
deterioration of equipment, corrosion, complacency as well as exaggerated
mooring & docking fees.

Docking fees are something I do not pay. My mooring is free as God intended
sailing, in general to be free. My location is not polluted. The water is clear
enough to see bottle caps laying on the bottom in ten feet of water. There are
an abuncance of other boats but they are mostly motorboats or sailboats motoring
and once one sails a couple miles offshore one has the ocean all to one's self.

I'll stick to my seasonal sailing regime thank-you very much..... the water
here is deep blue, pristine by comparison and I can actually eat the fish or
shellfish without fear of mercury or other toxic contamination! The fact
that I'm fortunate to even spot 2 or 3 vessels out sailing in the summer is
as well a benefit neither of you enjoy!!

Yes, stick to part-time sailing and keep deluding yourself into thinking you
are a sailor when it's obvious that you are merely a blowhard who is
frustrated and unable to admit he cannot sail as much as he would like
to sail because he has allowed lubberly habits to control his fate and is
too weak-minded and timid to move to climes where sailing is a way of
life and not an escape from reality.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There you go taking things seriously like katysails and stealing my bait.
;-)

Love,
LP

"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
"Lady Pilot" posted:

Nah, now that I'm gone he will turn into the asshole he's always been...

LP


Not nice. Not nice at all.
"The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life,
but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit." --- Proverbs 15:4

CN

Well Well Well....... the sermon on lifestyle from the Moored and Docked!

CM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
You and I think alike in many ways. We may differ as to which is the
proper hull material for a small blue water yacht but we definitely
have our priorities straight in that we choose to live aboard rather
than ashore. We choose freedom over servitude, challenge over
sloth, variety over hum-drum, simplicity over complication, being in
control over being controlled and Mother Nature over works of man.

Ours is the life of a nomad, a warrior, a man in harmony who is not
afraid to face a variety of challenges and to control our own destiny
while employing any number of learned and innate skills to keep our
home and conveyance operational and reliable so that, by the work
of our own hands we trust our very lives. We are men and proud men
at that.
Would that there were more such men here and in the world to keep
it from being the mean and tawdry place it has become of late.

Hope to see you, your stout ship and fine crew on the high seas one of
these days.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal



"Joe" penned the following perceptive words:

Indeed to suffer a sailing (season) less 6+ mo a years, and to have to
wrap your boat is down right lubbery. To own a boat that is not capable of
living aboard... and not living aboard... put you in the class of the
weekend warriors. And to not have the seatime or ambition to sit for a
Capt. ticket shows no ambition or savy of the way of the sea.....and
again is lubbery. How they can sleep at night without being rocked to
bed is beyond me. Anyone who spends more time ashore than afloat is
lubbery IMHO.

Joe

Better than from such as you - the stoned, the shut-in and the lubberly
(not to mention cocksure, crude, crass and craven). Get a life - become
a sailor instead of a land-bound laborer.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:h4%Sd.26505$NN.5890@edtnps89...
Well Well Well....... the sermon on lifestyle from the Moored and Docked!

CM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...
You and I think alike in many ways. We may differ as to which is the
proper hull material for a small blue water yacht but we definitely
have our priorities straight in that we choose to live aboard rather
than ashore. We choose freedom over servitude, challenge over
sloth, variety over hum-drum, simplicity over complication, being in
control over being controlled and Mother Nature over works of man.

Ours is the life of a nomad, a warrior, a man in harmony who is not
afraid to face a variety of challenges and to control our own destiny
while employing any number of learned and innate skills to keep our
home and conveyance operational and reliable so that, by the work
of our own hands we trust our very lives. We are men and proud men
at that.
Would that there were more such men here and in the world to keep
it from being the mean and tawdry place it has become of late.

Hope to see you, your stout ship and fine crew on the high seas one of these days.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal



"Joe" penned the following perceptive words:

Indeed to suffer a sailing (season) less 6+ mo a years, and to have to wrap your boat is down right lubbery. To own a boat that
is not capable of living aboard... and not living aboard... put you in the class of the
weekend warriors. And to not have the seatime or ambition to sit for a
Capt. ticket shows no ambition or savy of the way of the sea.....and
again is lubbery. How they can sleep at night without being rocked to
bed is beyond me. Anyone who spends more time ashore than afloat is
lubbery IMHO.

Joe

I've never been described as C4..... but a change would be required ...
cocksure, cunning, courageous and clever would be acceptable and much closer
to the truth of the matter.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

(not to mention cocksure, crude, crass and craven).