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Capt. Neal®
 
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Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there still is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the sail shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN
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JR Gilbreath
 
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Capt Neal
I DID not make fun of your boom. I pointed out that the picture
of the Hunter was showing a loose footed main that the boom curve
would not affect. I really resent your juvenile misuse of my name.
That shows me more about your character than anything you could ever write.
JR Gilbreath


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery has
been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.
They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that
there still is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal
sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the
sail shape in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds
of downward force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled
down as it must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it
slightly easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.
CN

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Capt. Neal® wrote:

... but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail.


Once again, a self-proclaimed old salt embarrasses himself by inviting a
sweet, innocent, fresh-faced n00b to provide an elementary lecture in the
dynamics of the outhaul on a shelf-footed main...

The sail is flattened under outhaul tension due to the direct pull between
tack and clew. When thus tensioned, the surplus material in the shelf foot
sags. Since the shelf is sagging, it imparts no downward pull on the main -
it is slack cloth between the bolt rope and the sail, proper.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk


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And, worst (or best) of all, he used a HUNTER as a comparison!

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"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .
Capt Neal
I DID not make fun of your boom. I pointed out that the picture
of the Hunter was showing a loose footed main that the boom curve would
not affect. I really resent your juvenile misuse of my name. That shows
me more about your character than anything you could ever write.
JR Gilbreath


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery has
been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.
They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there
still is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal
sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the sail
shape in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of
downward force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as
it must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it
slightly easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in order
to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an
efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.
CN



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But you are forgetting that the special bend in the good Capt's highly
modified, blue water cruising boom puts the center of the sail in vertical
tension relative to the two ends when the outhaul is tightened.
I can only speculate as to what bottom paint the good Capt uses, for it must
have superior adherent characteristics since his fine yacht easily sails at
hull speed under all conditions.

Gilligan


"Wally" wrote in message
.uk...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

... but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail.


Once again, a self-proclaimed old salt embarrasses himself by inviting a
sweet, innocent, fresh-faced n00b to provide an elementary lecture in the
dynamics of the outhaul on a shelf-footed main...

The sail is flattened under outhaul tension due to the direct pull between
tack and clew. When thus tensioned, the surplus material in the shelf foot
sags. Since the shelf is sagging, it imparts no downward pull on the

main -
it is slack cloth between the bolt rope and the sail, proper.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk






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It is very disappointing, good Capt, to see people have such disdain for
innovation. You are definitely a role model to those who are willing to
constantly improve themselves. You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the
likes of Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick and Filo T. Farnsworth!

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there still is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal

sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the sail

shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it

slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN



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katysails
 
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Yep...not many of us here with an innovative mauve interior in a mustard
colored boat...
just thinking about it gives me gas....

"Gilligan" wrote in message
.net...
It is very disappointing, good Capt, to see people have such disdain for
innovation. You are definitely a role model to those who are willing to
constantly improve themselves. You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the
likes of Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick and Filo T. Farnsworth!

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there still is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal

sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the sail

shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it

slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an
efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN





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Gilligan
 
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A good coating of Crisco in the intestine aids digestion and prevents gas.
It can also keep the beehive in shape in any wind (however foul) on the
Beaufort scale.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Yep...not many of us here with an innovative mauve interior in a mustard
colored boat...
just thinking about it gives me gas....

"Gilligan" wrote in message
.net...
It is very disappointing, good Capt, to see people have such disdain for
innovation. You are definitely a role model to those who are willing to
constantly improve themselves. You can stand shoulder to shoulder with

the
likes of Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick and Filo T. Farnsworth!

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things

mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there still

is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal

sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds

heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the

epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the

sail
shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of

downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it

must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it

slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an
efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN







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katysails
 
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A good coating of Crisco will do your areteries in so that you won't have to
worry about gas....and I prefer Aqua Net SuperBlend for my beehive, thenk
yew veddy much...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
A good coating of Crisco in the intestine aids digestion and prevents gas.
It can also keep the beehive in shape in any wind (however foul) on the
Beaufort scale.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Yep...not many of us here with an innovative mauve interior in a mustard
colored boat...
just thinking about it gives me gas....

"Gilligan" wrote in message
.net...
It is very disappointing, good Capt, to see people have such disdain
for
innovation. You are definitely a role model to those who are willing to
constantly improve themselves. You can stand shoulder to shoulder with

the
likes of Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick and Filo T. Farnsworth!

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things

mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there still

is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as internal
sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds

heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the

epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the

sail
shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of

downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it

must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it
slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend
ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how
racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The
bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an
efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage
over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN








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Hold a lit match in the spray of that Aqua Net Super Blend and you will find
very little difference between it and your mauve induced gas.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
A good coating of Crisco will do your areteries in so that you won't have

to
worry about gas....and I prefer Aqua Net SuperBlend for my beehive, thenk
yew veddy much...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
A good coating of Crisco in the intestine aids digestion and prevents

gas.
It can also keep the beehive in shape in any wind (however foul) on the
Beaufort scale.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Yep...not many of us here with an innovative mauve interior in a

mustard
colored boat...
just thinking about it gives me gas....

"Gilligan" wrote in message
.net...
It is very disappointing, good Capt, to see people have such disdain
for
innovation. You are definitely a role model to those who are willing

to
constantly improve themselves. You can stand shoulder to shoulder

with
the
likes of Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick and Filo T. Farnsworth!

Gilligan


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Dear Group and Lurkers,

The usual bunch of babbling buffoons in the group's Peanut Gallery
has been making fun of my well-repaired boom. They include Whining

Oz,
Gay Gaynz, JRBadbreath, and Crotchety Ole Thom.

They seem to criticize my sturdy boom on the basis of two things

mainly.

1) It is heavy ruining light air performance.
2) It is slightly bent thus ruining sail trim.

They cannot claim it is weak because it has held up under more than
ten years of hard sailing since I repaired it and it is still far
stronger
than the original extrusion was. It is so well sealed that there

still
is
not a speck of rust or corrosion to be seen.

1) Allow me to debunk the 'heavy' claim. The pipes I used as

internal
sleeves
weighed a total of ten pounds. This means the boom is ten pounds

heavier
than usual. The epoxy I slathered them with when I slid them home

with
the help of a 2X6 sealed them and glued them to the boom but the

epoxy's
weight is insignificant. Some say this extra ten pound will ruin the

sail
shape
in light-air sailing. Simply not so, as more than ten pounds of

downward
force is placed on the sail when the mainsheet is hauled down as it

must
be even in light air. All the slightly heavier boom does is make it
slightly
easier to sheet in the mainsail.

2) Allow me to debunk the second claim concerning a slight bend
ruining
the shape and trim of the mainsail. Simply not so. Just look how
racers
intentionally bend their mainmast with fancy backstay pensioners in
order to flatten their mainsail for better performance. My boom
accomplishes the very same thing because of the bolt rope in the

boom
and the shelf foot which closes when the outhaul is tightened. The
bend
has no effect upon the sail shape when the outhaul is eased because
then the shelf foot opens up and the sail relaxes along the boom and
foot but when the outhaul is tensioned, the shelf foot closes and

the
bolt rope in the boom tends to flatten the sail. This is such an
efficient
system that, frankly, I am surprised nobody has thought of it

before.
The first racer who decides to use a bent boom and a bolt/rope

shelf-
footed sail will do well because he will have a definite advantage
over
staid and unoriginal minds (or lack thereof) as demonstrated in the
ignorant individuals listed above.

These two simple explanations demonstrate how lacking in knowledge
everyone except Gilligan is when it comes to knowing what makes a

fast
boat like "Cut the Mustard" even faster.

CN










 
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