Freedom to chose is what you give lip service to, but when it comes right
down to it, you're only interested in your version of freedom of speech and
thought. Anyone with any kind of differing viewpoint is immediately put down
both verbally and by law if you can do it. You're a hypocrite.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Freedom to chose is better than a Dictatorship.

Why you ask. Because most people want to do well and prosper. Everyone
deserves the chance to determine his or her own destiny. I have faith
in true democracy. Look what it did for Japan and Germany.

Joe

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:29:57 -0500, Vito wrote:

Yes, but now what kind of people have these cheering crowds elected?
Secularists committed to freedom? NO! They came in a distant third!
They elected radical Shiite Muslims with strong ties to Iran - men
dedicated to an "Islamic democracy" just like Irans wherein the elected
officials serve the ayatollahs and mullahs. They wouldn't know freedom if
it hit the in the ass.

Only time will tell, but I hope you are wrong. Everything I have read
about Sistani, states that he would prefer a secular, inclusive form of
government. Granted, it could be BS, but he is Iraq's only hope.

For those that disregard the original reasons for the invasion of Iraq,
WMD's and Iraq's threat to America, and are willing to accept this mutated
causa belli, I would point out we have now shed as much American blood
bringing, a yet to be seen, democracy to Iraq, as we had in our own
Revolutionary War. With somewhere over 100 nations still needing
democracy, I suggest they sign up the sons and daughters today.

I'm sure plans are underway to attack Syria. That should "help" the Lebanese
people.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:55:04 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:45:41 -0500, thunder
said:

Really?

Yes, really. Those of us who are old enough remember when Lebanon was a
relatively stable and vibrant financial center, with an effective power
sharing arrangement among the three principal religious groups, standing
in sharp contrast to most of its neighbors. The arrangement was upset as
a
result of the change in its demographics following the '67 Arab-Israeli
war.

Well, I remember Eisenhower sending the Marines to Lebanon. ;-) I'm not
disputing what you are saying, but unfortunately, that was quite some time
ago. Perhaps, I overstated Lebanon's historical disarray. Then again,
those that consider Lebanon's current situation a boon for democracy, are
discarding the facts. A ex-Prime Minister's assassination, a mob in the
streets, and a Druze leader who won't leave his mountaintop for fear of
being a target, does not bode well for democracy. Having watched
Lebanon's recent history, I wish the Lebanese well, but they have a long
slog ahead of them, before they reach their former "stable and vibrant"
status.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:49:16 -0800, JG wrote:

I'm sure plans are underway to attack Syria. That should "help" the
Lebanese people.

A curious repayment for some very helpful intelligence against al Qaeda.
One has to wonder who we are fighting against, and for.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030728fa_fact

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

I don't need no stinkin' blindfold.... but if I absolutely
had
to wear
one, I will staple two Maple leaves to my forehead.

Staples are for Yankee Pussies.... I'd use a Robertson Screws.


Torqs are better, you hoser!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:3RGVd.37885$ab2.19697@edtnps89...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

I don't need no stinkin' blindfold.... but if I absolutely
had
to wear
one, I will staple two Maple leaves to my forehead.

Staples are for Yankee Pussies.... I'd use a Robertson Screws.


Torqs are better, you hoser!

The new pinhole torques or the old ones?

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote

Staples are for Yankee Pussies.... I'd use a Robertson Screws.


Torqs are better, you hoser!

The new pinhole torques or the old ones?


Torx Plus.

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=114660&page=1


SV

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

Staples are for Yankee Pussies.... I'd use a Robertson Screws.


Torqs are better, you hoser!

The new pinhole torques or the old ones?


Torx Plus.

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=114660&page=1

Yeah... I've got a set of Torx Plus.... I found out one day that a standard
torque head wouldn't fit these newfangled things. I keep a set of Phillips,
Robertson , Torx and now Torx Plus .... the only screw I won't have or use
is the slotted.

CM