Yeah, we tarp...I'm beginning tothink that I should just go buy him a pile
of teak and let him finish it...I think varnishing is therapeutic for him...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"katysails" wrote in message

Winter takes its' toll on varnish in a very bad way here...and Mr Sails
is a varnish fanatic...its' done as a matt4er of course rather than a
matter of need...

Don't you have some sort of cover?

Max

eeewwwww.....flushed gerbils....I remember a particular event when my
youngest sister had gerbils...she insisted to my parents that they were
supposedly both boys...wrong-o...both were females that had already been
bred..within 6 weeks we were inundated...I think my Dad made them do a
disappearing job but I don't know if the toilet was the instrument of death
or not...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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OzOne wrote in message

Yp, Clockwise in the southern and anticlock in the northern

You are, of course, referring to which way our toilets flush, right?

We have an anti-Coriolus toilet, which flushes straight down, no spin. No
damn good for *swirlies* however, but it does great with dead gerbils.

Max

The way this spring is going we'll launch in May and be able to walk on the
ice out to the mooring...

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"katysails" wrote in message

Luckyyou...due to dock repair, etc., dunk day isn't until the 1st weekend
of May at MYC....

The way our Springs have been, I doubt if you'll miss much. However I
really enjoy sailing early--few powerboats, no sheriff's patrol, and the
winds generally are steady and 15kts or better, if chilly.

Max

Why? Haggie's a girl; Scotty's a guy...seems normal to me...

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

I better call Haggy and tell her to paint my bottom by then.

I've filtered the Ganz Problem, but I'm sure this will evoke a response
from him.

Max

Yeah, well tell that to the commodore...but that's the price to pay for
cheaper storage...we stored at Torreson's last year and were in earlier but
the cost was double...

"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message
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KS wrote: dunk day isn't until the 1st weekend of
May at MYC....

That is mid-season for the REAL great lakes sailor!!!

L



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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Luckyyou...due to dock repair, etc., dunk day isn't until the 1st weekend
of May at MYC....

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

I got excited yesterday, sent in my launch request. Asked for 2nd week
in April.

Brave or looking forward to very little improvements....

Nah. We're going in either the first or second Saturday in April.
Cold, yeah, but that's when the season begins, dammit.

Max

"DSK" wrote in message

That's not the case, from my observations. Given two equally prepped
pieces of wood, the Cetol will outlast varnish by about 10% at most, and
require about 10% less work to maintain.

The biggest difference between the two that I've found is the technique and
care required during application. I'm good with a brush, but it still takes
me far longer and with far more care to apply a coat of varnish vs. Cetol.
I can apply a coat of Cetol to my coamings in about an hour. To do the same
with, say, Interlux varnish, I'd require at least twice that long with all
the tipping out, etc. More care is required in dipping the brush in varnish
as well, to avoid bubbles. And weather is another factor. I've applied
Cetol in 45 degrees and wind, and also in 90 degrees and humidity, both with
acceptable results. Varnish requires a narrower set of parameters if the
finish coat is to have a smooth, glasslike appearance. Then of course there
is the issue of sanding between coats. Cetol requires none as it bonds
chemically to itself, but varnish requires a mechanical bond between coats,
so sanding is obligatory.


The new clear stuff doesn't look as bad as the old orange Jell-O Cetol,
but it still doesn't look good up close.

I honestly can't tell much difference between the two.

If the wood has pretty enough grain to be worth any type of bright finish,
it deserves varnish IMHO.

Have you ever tried Epifanes Gloss Wood Finish?


BTW we had a professional do some of the wood on our boat when we first
bought it, the former owner had slapped on a terrible coating of
polyurethane. He also takes care of a number of boats with Cetol and he
swears the stuff is actually more work than varnish.

I've heard that before, and don't believe it for a moment.

... Perhaps when we retire to Oriental, we'll reconsider varnish for
the brightwork.


That part of NC (around New Bern as well) is getting to be worse than
Florida. They're four-laning the highway to Oriental, so that the
blue-hairs will have an easier time. But hey, there's plenty of room for
more!

We noted the road work when we were there last year. Not too many bluehairs
when we were there, but no doubt they'll come. They always do.


But if you move the boat down South, you'll be astonished at the
difference in the longevity of any type finish. UV is very destructive. If
you don't have varnish now, you certainly won't want it down here unless
you put the boat under a cover.

Not having experienced a NC summer I can't comment, but I'd be surprised if
the UV intensity there wasn't significantly greater than up here.

Max

"DSK" wrote in message

It's true that computational dynamics have replaced the experienced eye in
naval architecture, and boats have become enormously faster (largely
because of advances in materials IMHO), the experienced sailors eye still
has a feel for what the sea will approve of. Ugly race boats are usually
optimized to some measurement rule rather than for performance.

I can't remember the name of the boat, but it was a noted one-off
rule-beater back in the seventies. It was so butt-f***ing ugly as to be
offensive. Not sure if it won many races, but it did get a lot of press.

Max

"DSK" wrote in message

Joe wrote:
Well said Doug, Except for that wise crack about center cockpits.

It may be that your boat is one of the exceptions... given what you've
said, and the look of it from pictures, I'd be inclined to think so.

Another exception is the Graham & Schlageter-designed S2 35 CC. It was a
lower-volume center cockpit boat built on a racing hull, and it was
amazingly fast, especially downwind, but it wasn't beautiful. Nothing on
our part of Lake Michigan, short of a maxi, could outrun that beast.

Max

"katysails" wrote in message

eeewwwww.....flushed gerbils....I remember a particular event when my
youngest sister had gerbils...she insisted to my parents that they were
supposedly both boys...wrong-o...both were females that had already been
bred..within 6 weeks we were inundated...I think my Dad made them do a
disappearing job but I don't know if the toilet was the instrument of
death or not...

Any of the larger constrictors do well, too. In fact, most pet stores breed
and sell gerbils as snake food.

Max

OzOne wrote in message news
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:26:36 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

Bloody hard to move a house Cappy!

Not really. Andrew did just fine in that regard.

Max


Yeah, and Cappy just "rode it out".

It was significantly attenuated where he was.

Max