"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
How about you? I guess you are one of those who
never admit making a mistake? What areas do you
feel you need to work on with respect to your command
and leadership on board a vessel?

Poor PJ only sails with his wife..... and he's hen-pecked. He has no
crew.... and he's bitter about it. :-)

I remember a bad call on my part in the early days of flying my first
spinnaker which resulted in getting slammed twice during a run in shifty
winds. The crew looked at me in disbelief when I directed them to reset the
chute. I had no problem in telling them all there and then.. "Lads... I
****ed up.. this is new for me and I need to get this right. I'm there for
you guys when you need me... now I need you guys there for me... put that
chute up!" There was no hesitation after that.

CM

Bart Senior wrote:
What are the attributes of an outstanding skipper?

Take a good hard look at yourself, and tell me which
attributes you feel need improvement in yourself.

Tell me what you plan to do to effect such improvements.

I look at boob**** and then think exactly opposite.

Bart Senior wrote:
What are the attributes of an outstanding skipper?

Me


Take a good hard look at yourself, and tell me which
attributes you feel need improvement in yourself.

None

Tell me what you plan to do to effect such improvements.

I have no need for improvement.
It's hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way.

Capt. Rob
SV Cyclops
Davy Jones Locker

Sounds like you're the one in love with men. You seem to have a corner on
that market. Of course, you're a bit angry about it, but that's to be
expected by someone who's been in the closet for so long. Also, it seems
like you're the expert when it comes to being gay, since you know so many of
the details.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:05:49 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Bart is twice the man and three times the sailor that you dream of
becoming.

Sounds like love to me! I hear they are allowing Gay marriage in
California. You
and Connie can take turns being the "wife"


Captain Joe Redcloud
Mohnton PA

In no particular order:

Good Judgement
Experience
Knowledge
Ability
Empathy
Courage








"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
What are the attributes of an outstanding skipper?

Take a good hard look at yourself, and tell me which
attributes you feel need improvement in yourself.

Tell me what you plan to do to effect such improvements.

jlrogers wrote:

In no particular order:

Good Judgement
Experience
Knowledge
Ability
Empathy
Courage


Does "Good Judgement" include foresight & the ability to keep several
moves ahead of the boat? IMHO that's one of the most important
characteristics of a skipper.

Empathy... yes, especially as some other pointed out, the empathy to put
crews to work at tasks appropriate to their skill.

Courage is I think over rated in a sailor. Usually any occasion calling
for bravery is due to a lack of foresight, judgement, knowledge, etc etc.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

says...
..... The skipper saw everyone quitting and figured all
he had to do to win was finish. And finish we did at 3AM (race
started at 1PM. No committee boat but his understanding is since
there was no time limit on the race he just had to cross on the right
side of the sea buoy that made up one half of the line.


Umm, did they actually award this genius a finish time for doing this?



While bobbing around out there, this fool had us doing all kinds of
idiotic things to get the boat moving. For instance he had read in a
dead calm if you ease forward and then run briskly aft you will make
the boat move. He actually wanted us to do that.

John Cairns wrote:
IINM, that sort of thing is illegal under the rules of racing.


Not only is it illegal, it's very counterproductive *unless* the crew
practices the moves to get some actual measurable propulsive effort. The
best way to get the boat moving & keep the boat moving in a drifter is
to have the sails trimmed properly and keep everything absolutely still.

One of the benefits of regualr racing is that you get a chance to
actually try out rocking, pumping, sculling, etc etc, when there are
other boats next to you, and see if your technique helps the boat move
faster. Then you watch other doing it, sometimes there are guys who are
quite good at it. You work at improving, until you can make the boat
move that way.



Most race skippers will provision their boats for the crew. He did
not and told us when we found out before the race that we did not have
time to get some food and beer.


I'd have left the boat right then. Dehydration is not a joke.


The only reason I didn't pitch him overboard was because of the
Brother in Law.


Dave Doe wrote:
LOL - great post mate!

PS: surely there *would* have been a time limit, or at least, one should
have been imposed during the race when the wind dropped, and the course
shortened. Was a radio not a requirement?


Apparently not.

DSK

Good one CM. I'm still laughing. Do you have
any more of these stories? Tell us more...

It is funny that some people freak out of things
that are actually quite easy. I once sailed down the
river from the bridge under Mystic under full sail,
gybed where the channel turned and blasted right
out through the race by Watch Hill a short while
later. The tide was high and it was perfectly safe
and even would have been safe at low tide as we
never left the channel.

When I told another "Captain" about this, she
seemed to think it was risky. Which immediately
told me she didn't have a clue.

Regarding my lady friend. I put her in charge of
the galley, recommended she delegate some of
the work, and left all that up to her during my last
trip to the islands. She did a great job. She is a
fantansitic cook and we all ate like Kings the whole
trip. Giving responsibility and authority is a good
attribute of a skipper. She didn't delegate much
and everything went perfectly.

I made another fellow dingy Captain, and he did
pretty well. Although some of what he delegated
turned sour on him. He asked his father to check
the fuel--and he didn't--they ran out of gas coming
back from town, and hadn't followed my
recommendation of taking a radio. So it was a learning
experience for him, and those of us back on the
mothership had a good laugh watching them try
to paddle in a straight line. I

I think everyone benefited from the clear lines of
authority. And everyone learned from the few mistakes.
Paddling an inflatable dinghy 1/2 a mile will help them
remember to check the gas and bring a radio next
time.


"Capt.Mooron" wrote

Anyway... we decided to "impress" the newbies, who had wanted some heavy
weather time sailing, during our return to a well populated mooring field.
We approached the mooring field under full press [having done this on many
occasions]. This of course scared the hell out of the newbies. The woman
demanded we slow down. I directed her to quickly break out the fenders as
the vessel was out of control and requested the remaining crew to stand by
along the rails to fend off while my buddy and I handled the sails. They
didn't even see us laughing at them they were so busy. We tacked through
that mooring field at full speed going around, in, out and about all the
vessels for the next 15 minutes without a hitch... then before they
realized
what was happening... the vessel was brought into the wind.... I requested
the newbie at the bow to hook up to the mooring and once secure we dropped
canvas.

We all had a good laugh over drinks in the cockpit.

I spoke to the woman 2 years later and she was still impressed at the ease
with which I not only ignored her objections with fake panic..... but the
surgical ease at which my buddy and I negotiated the mooring field and
vessels until the newbies began to realize we were having it on at their
expense. She has her own vessel now and uses the same tactic. :-)

CM

Maybe I'll have you coil the anchor line in the bow.

BTW, I just heard a story from a friend. While doing
a delivery in the Gulf of Mexico, they found one young
guy had smuggled some pot on the boat and used up
all the matched for lighting the galley fires. Everyone was
****ed.

He refused to let the skipper dump his weed overboard,
so they compromised and put him in a dinghy in tow behind
the boat and notified him they would cut the tow cable if
the Coast Guard appeared.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
So you are nightmare crew. I'll have you coiling
line for hours! grin

Line coiling is an ongoing task on my vessel. I do not tolerate spaghetti.
There are a thousand and one ways to really annoy a skipper while
undertaking your appointed tasks! :-)

CM

Which areas do you think you need to improve?

"jlrogers" wrote

In no particular order:

Good Judgement
Experience
Knowledge
Ability
Empathy
Courage

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
What are the attributes of an outstanding skipper?

Take a good hard look at yourself, and tell me which
attributes you feel need improvement in yourself.