Daedalus and Icarus.

I agree with you Doug about courage. If you plan ahead
how much courage is needed? If you know what you
are doing and have actions for any given situation, then
fear is not a problem.

You need courage to do something you know is
risky. Like sailing solo in the artic in locations where
the Coast Guard does not do rescues. Hardly an attribute
of an outstanding skipper.

Daedalus would be foresight and thinking ahead.

Icarus
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
jlrogers wrote:

In no particular order:

Good Judgement
Experience
Knowledge
Ability
Empathy
Courage


Does "Good Judgement" include foresight & the ability to keep several
moves ahead of the boat? IMHO that's one of the most important
characteristics of a skipper.

Empathy... yes, especially as some other pointed out, the empathy to put
crews to work at tasks appropriate to their skill.

Courage is I think over rated in a sailor. Usually any occasion calling
for bravery is due to a lack of foresight, judgement, knowledge, etc etc.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

You keep bringing up gay-related subjects. You equate someone saying
something nice about another guy as something gay.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:29:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Sounds like you're the one in love with men. You seem to have a corner on
that market. Of course, you're a bit angry about it, but that's to be
expected by someone who's been in the closet for so long. Also, it seems
like you're the expert when it comes to being gay, since you know so many
of
the details.

Please explains exactly how "I" sound like the one who is in love with
men.

You are off the deep end, Jonny, but it may be due to your infatuation
with
Connie, who you are rapsodizing over in public. Here's your latest:

Bart is twice the man and three times the sailor that you dream of
becoming.


Sounds like you are full to the brim with thoughts of Connie Senior.


Captain Joe Redcloud
Mohnton PA

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You keep bringing up gay-related subjects. You equate someone saying
something nice about another guy as something gay.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Obviously homophobic, and we all know what that means.

John Cairns

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:29:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Sounds like you're the one in love with men. You seem to have a corner on
that market. Of course, you're a bit angry about it, but that's to be
expected by someone who's been in the closet for so long. Also, it seems
like you're the expert when it comes to being gay, since you know so many
of
the details.

Please explains exactly how "I" sound like the one who is in love with
men.

You are off the deep end, Jonny, but it may be due to your infatuation
with
Connie, who you are rapsodizing over in public. Here's your latest:

Bart is twice the man and three times the sailor that you dream of
becoming.


Sounds like you are full to the brim with thoughts of Connie Senior.


Captain Joe Redcloud
Mohnton PA

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

Anyone who has been on the Mystic River can tell that this is a phony
story.
It's loaded with errors that make it impossible for it to be true.

Now _This_ .....is Classic JAX!!!!!!

CM

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message

Good one CM. I'm still laughing. Do you have
any more of these stories? Tell us more...

This next adventure was more of a test of another Captain. We had just
completed sea trials on a boat my buddy was buying... a 20ft Bayliner Trophy
cuddy cabin walk-about.... the deal was done and we were on our way with the
Trophy thru the same mooring field enroute to the ramp.

Anyway..... I saw Caroline aboard her 24 ft sailboat having drinks with
some people at their mooring. I headed towards her. At about the same
instance I spotted an empty can of beer in the mesh bag beside me.....

I grabbed the beer can waving it back and forth in front of me and started
yelling & slurring at her to get out of my way while aiming directly at her
vessel. Panic on her part ensued as she clambered for the bow and pointed to
her mooring painter screaming at me to stop. I of course laid onto the horn
and screamed I'd run her down if she didn't get out of my way! She pointed
at her guests ... one of whom was in a massive shoulder cast and brace. She
valiantly kept screaming that she was on a moored vessel and couldn't
move.... her arms flailing wildly. They were scrambling for their dinghy
when I approached close and turned the Trophy smartly around laughing!

After their adrenaline rush subsided.... we took them all for a run in the
Trophy and over a brew Caroline assured me she thought some drunken power
boater was going to T-Bone her boat! The geologist in the cast had just been
mauled by a bear the week before.!! He was considering if he should continue
working up north.... he's still there.

What would you have done in her place...... I would have used the Flare
Gun! :-)

CM

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

So describe the Mystic river in detail, Guy. I can, because I go there a
few
times a year. Connie the pretender has either never been there, or he had
no
idea where he wAS. His story was a complete fabrication, like most or all
of
yours.

Sheesh..... I didn't mean to push your buttons so hard there Jax! :-)

Bwahahahahahahahaaaa....

CM

Capt.Mooron wrote:
This next adventure was more of a test of another Captain. We had just
completed sea trials on a boat my buddy was buying... a 20ft Bayliner Trophy
cuddy cabin walk-about.... the deal was done and we were on our way with the
Trophy thru the same mooring field enroute to the ramp.

Anyway..... I saw Caroline aboard her 24 ft sailboat having drinks with
some people at their mooring. I headed towards her. At about the same
instance I spotted an empty can of beer in the mesh bag beside me.....

I grabbed the beer can waving it back and forth in front of me and started
yelling & slurring at her to get out of my way while aiming directly at her
vessel. Panic on her part ensued as she clambered for the bow and pointed to
her mooring painter screaming at me to stop. I of course laid onto the horn
and screamed I'd run her down if she didn't get out of my way! She pointed
at her guests ... one of whom was in a massive shoulder cast and brace. She
valiantly kept screaming that she was on a moored vessel and couldn't
move.... her arms flailing wildly. They were scrambling for their dinghy
when I approached close and turned the Trophy smartly around laughing!

After their adrenaline rush subsided.... we took them all for a run in the
Trophy and over a brew Caroline assured me she thought some drunken power
boater was going to T-Bone her boat! The geologist in the cast had just been
mauled by a bear the week before.!! He was considering if he should continue
working up north.... he's still there.

What would you have done in her place...... I would have used the Flare
Gun! :-)


Heck with the flare gun, I'd have pulled out the trusty 30-06 and
disabled your engine.

OTOH in our present boat, we don't worry about Bayliners or drunk
fishermen ramming us, they'd come out in 2nd place and know it.

DSK

DSK

Yup, he's clearly homophobic. Thanks for the clarification John. I'm sure
it's something he and his psychologist can figure out.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:47:59 GMT, "John Cairns"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You keep bringing up gay-related subjects. You equate someone saying
something nice about another guy as something gay.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Obviously homophobic, and we all know what that means.

John Cairns


I'm not homophobic in the least. I have just found that Jonny is an easy
target
when you push certain buttons. He's an easy mark


Captain Joe Redcloud
Mohnton PA

Obviously you haven't been there Bill. It's more
than 2 miles from your home port. You can't get
a good perspective from your Datsun B210.

Nothing fabricated about it. Anyone who HAS been
there, has seen that over-crowded mooring field and
studied the chart in detail to find a place to anchor.

Anyone [with a brain] can study a chart and figure
out what to do in the typical westerly winds when
departing south of the swing bridge.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

So describe the Mystic river in detail, Guy. I can, because I go there a
few
times a year. Connie the pretender has either never been there, or he
had
no
idea where he wAS. His story was a complete fabrication, like most or
all
of yours.

Sheesh..... I didn't mean to push your buttons so hard there Jax! :-)

Bwahahahahahahahaaaa....

CM

Knowing you, I'd be certain you'd been drinking
like a fish, and pulled out my camera to document
the event while giving you repeated "eight short blast"
signals with an air horn. Fortunately my camera has
a movie mode with audeo.

BTW, after sailing today, two of the guys pulled out
guitars and started playing music, and three more
gals showed up, one with food! I took a couple of
video's of the evening. They came out rather well
with interesting boats cruising by in the background.


"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message

Good one CM. I'm still laughing. Do you have
any more of these stories? Tell us more...

This next adventure was more of a test of another Captain. We had just
completed sea trials on a boat my buddy was buying... a 20ft Bayliner
Trophy
cuddy cabin walk-about.... the deal was done and we were on our way with
the
Trophy thru the same mooring field enroute to the ramp.

Anyway..... I saw Caroline aboard her 24 ft sailboat having drinks with
some people at their mooring. I headed towards her. At about the same
instance I spotted an empty can of beer in the mesh bag beside me.....

I grabbed the beer can waving it back and forth in front of me and started
yelling & slurring at her to get out of my way while aiming directly at
her
vessel. Panic on her part ensued as she clambered for the bow and pointed
to
her mooring painter screaming at me to stop. I of course laid onto the
horn
and screamed I'd run her down if she didn't get out of my way! She pointed
at her guests ... one of whom was in a massive shoulder cast and brace.
She
valiantly kept screaming that she was on a moored vessel and couldn't
move.... her arms flailing wildly. They were scrambling for their dinghy
when I approached close and turned the Trophy smartly around laughing!

After their adrenaline rush subsided.... we took them all for a run in the
Trophy and over a brew Caroline assured me she thought some drunken power
boater was going to T-Bone her boat! The geologist in the cast had just
been
mauled by a bear the week before.!! He was considering if he should
continue
working up north.... he's still there.

What would you have done in her place...... I would have used the Flare
Gun! :-)

CM