Jeff says that performance is actually a measure of how satisfied you
are by your boat, and not the actual relative performance. Well, right
after I went to feed my Tribbles, I gave that some thought. So let's
all journey to Jeff's world (don't forget your space suit and light
sabre) and look at who's more satisfied with their boat...

Jeff said the following negative comments of his PDQ:
1) It's not good in light air
2) The helm is lacking feel at times
3) It's tedious to tack and...
4) no good for short tacking
5) New versions have dagger boards and better upwind ability
6) She can be bounced around by winds while maneuvering

Now let's look at what I don't like about the 35s5:
1) Fridge is a bit too small
2) Don't like the stool at nav station-may replace.

Well, there you have it. We sailed the 35s5 in light and heavy
conditions. Loved it. Tacked like dream on a greased dime and flew on
every point of sail. We found it comfortable and ultra fast and fun.
Sailing under main alone she was like a huge Laser and quite easy to
keep on her feet. So she can be sailed hard for fun, or easy for more
relaxed days with Thomas aboard. I was worried about the wheel being
too far aft, but it turned out to be a non-issue in practice. We find
the interior simply perfect and quite beautiful. She is among the very
few boats in her size/price range to have room for someone 6'3 tall.
So based on Jeff's criteria we're more satisfied with our boat than he
is with the PDQ. The only things we don't like can be corrected if we
want. Not the case for the hobbled PDQ. Now granted we haven't spent a
season with the 35s5 yet. I'll be sure to list things we don't like.
But at this point in time WE HAVE THE BETTER BOAT!

RB
35s5...the BEST boat (Though Scotty may have less problems with his!)
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Jeff says that performance is actually a measure of how satisfied you
are by your boat,

I never said that. I said its how well it fulfills its intended
purpose. I really mean the designer's purpose, not yours. Its
painfully clear that you actually have no purpose in life, which could
explain why this boat suits you so well.

and not the actual relative performance. Well, right
after I went to feed my Tribbles, I gave that some thought. So let's
all journey to Jeff's world (don't forget your space suit and light
sabre) and look at who's more satisfied with their boat...

Jeff said the following negative comments of his PDQ:
1) It's not good in light air

Hey - I'll blow past you in any wind!

2) The helm is lacking feel at times

Especially on autopilot when I've headed to Maine.

3) It's tedious to tack and...
4) no good for short tacking

Stop the presses! I confessed cats don't tack well!

5) New versions have dagger boards and better upwind ability

Yea, that version races at a phrf of about 50. And you're still
talking about the boat after this one. So I guess you're already
planning to dump it and you don't even have it yet.

6) She can be bounced around by winds while maneuvering

you're really dragging the bottom here, she maneuvers quite well with
twin engines - a lot better then your bendy will. But remember, its
twice the size of your leaddragger and weighs 3000 pounds less.

But I never said I unsatisfied with these things, I was asked how in
handled compared to monohulls, so I felt like I should give a fair
appraisal. When much of my sailing was daysailing in the harbor, I
loved the Nonsuch, which I could sail like a dinghy. And there are
moments when I miss it a bit. But last summer I only went out 7 times
- two daysails, 2 overnights, and 3 trip for two weeks that started
with long sails. I have no needed of tacking on a dime when most of
sailing is 50+ mile hops.

But all you get to do is go out, tack 5 or 6 times, and go back in.
Big whoop! Those tacks better be fun, you're paying what, a hundred
buck each for them?



Now let's look at what I don't like about the 35s5:
1) Fridge is a bit too small
2) Don't like the stool at nav station-may replace.

The fact that you don't know anything about your boat doesn't make it
better. We've tried to educate you but you don't seem very receptive
to constructive criticism.

You've admitted that without A/C it would be horrific, but you don't
have a genset, so anchoring or even mooring is out of the question.
You're bragging about the electric stove, so you wouldn't be cooking
away from the dock. And no shower. So basically, you're saying that
this boat is useless as a cruiser, but that doesn't bother you at all.

And why should it, you've said you have no intention of cruising. And
you don't race. So what good is a racer/cruiser to you? other than
being able to brag about it?

And yet, you were offended when I said two months ago "Frankly I think
it appropriate that RB is finally looking a boat that suits his
style: a lightweight, fast daysailor that will impress friends back at
the marina."

Why is that?




Well, there you have it. We sailed the 35s5 in light and heavy
conditions. Loved it. Tacked like dream on a greased dime and flew on
every point of sail. We found it comfortable and ultra fast and fun.
Sailing under main alone she was like a huge Laser and quite easy to
keep on her feet. So she can be sailed hard for fun, or easy for more
relaxed days with Thomas aboard. I was worried about the wheel being
too far aft, but it turned out to be a non-issue in practice. We find
the interior simply perfect and quite beautiful. She is among the very
few boats in her size/price range to have room for someone 6'3 tall.
So based on Jeff's criteria we're more satisfied with our boat than he
is with the PDQ. The only things we don't like can be corrected if we
want. Not the case for the hobbled PDQ. Now granted we haven't spent a
season with the 35s5 yet. I'll be sure to list things we don't like.

I never said you wouldn't be happy with it. You seem to be happy with
lots of possessions you don't know how to use. Its a perfect boat for
someone who never does anything.


But at this point in time WE HAVE THE BETTER BOAT for sitting in a slip!

you can say that again!



RB
35s5...the BEST boat (Though I secretly think Scotty's is better!)
NY

But I never said I unsatisfied with these things,


Ohhhhh. I guess you are happy with the tedious tacking and light air
ability. Good!


I said its how well it fulfills its intended
purpose. I really mean the designer's purpose

Well, seeing how as the 35s5 was still a good selling model in spite of
it's high price (more than 400 hulls) and the owners pleased with
cruising and racing the boat, it looks like the 35s5 suceeded. It's
evolution began with boats like the First 38 and 345 and continues
today. Thanks!

The fact that you don't know anything about your boat doesn't make
it
better. We've tried to educate you

Bwahahahaa! How many 35s5's have you sailed? Let me
count...um....ZERO!!!! I have sailed 3 over the summer. AND I sailed a
PDQ 36.

So what good is a racer/cruiser to you? other than
being able to brag about it?

This, above all else, proves how ignorant you are, Jeff. The LIS is
famous for it's light air months. It bakes powerboats of most any
cruising sailboat like yours. Even the C&C and Pearson struggled at
times. Anyone who has a clue seeks high S/AD for local sailing. Wow! I
think I just gave you a clue, powersailer!


But all you get to do is go out, tack 5 or 6 times, and go back in.
Big whoop!

Unable to make any valid points, all your left with is to attack how we
sail, which you really don't know much about. Try sticking to the facts
about our boats....which you don't dare do! Tedious tacking, bad
pointing, light air hobbled PDQ 36...and you admitted to it.

When much of my sailing was daysailing in the harbor, I
loved the Nonsuch

Holy crap. Dude...you really don't need any more help in exposing
yourself. I sail J24s, J30's J35s, Swedens, First series boats and so
on. You sail Nonsuch and PDQ. How OLD are you? 90? Don't you like to
get some muscle tone? For us sailing is about the action and activity.
We bought the 35s5 to get more of it. You own a PDQ so you could get
away from what sailing is about for most people.
Good work!

RB
35s5...the best performing boat here!
NY