![]() |
The French Jap
Way to go Bob, you snipped everything about how we actually spent 6
weeks on the boat last summer. You JUST ADMITTED the boat is overkill. Can you be honest, even with yourself? Guess not. When we want a laugh we talk about bendies we've been on. How many First series Beneteaus have you been on? Which ones? So mow you're measuring my boat by what you need? Nope, but it fails on all counts because you ADMITTED it was overkill for YOUR NEEDS! Your's might be somewhat better than the ones that formed those opinions, but its the truth. Ohhhh. I see. So you never sailed one. I guess you must know that the 35s5 was Beneteau's entry into a more upscale market and it's built to a higher standard than the Oceanus cruisers and such. I guess you know her interior was built in france then shipped here. I guess you know that the boat has a rep among owners to be fairly bulletproof along with the First 345, 38s5 and non charter versions of the 38. I guess I shouldn't judge the C&C line by the C&C Mega 30 or Landfall 48 either! We all have to live with our choices. Next summer when we're anchored he Achoring is about the only thing to look forward to on a PDQ 36. We'll be sailing as always. Jeff, you have to be the all time worst debater EVER, even worse than Sloco! RB 35s5 NY |
The French Jap
This might be a better option for "your kind of sailing"
http://www.train-ticket.net/usa/gall.htm I dunno if he could handle it. Too much heeling! RB 35s5 NY |
The French Jap
Jeff, you have to be the all time worst debater EVER, even worse
than Sloco! Jeff, this means your kicking his ass. |
The French Jap
Jeff, you have to be the all time worst debater EVER, even worse
than Sloco! Jeff, this means your kicking his ass. Yeah, that's it!!!! RB 35s5...the best boat here! NY |
The French Jap
Whew... that's not fun.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jeff" wrote in message . .. Capt. Rob wrote: Do you really think anyone believes your "I bought it for half price and then sold it for triple" stories? Gawd, what a jackass! Uh, this is your response to the boats that were "raced hard?" No. It was a response to your claim that you paid less than what was paid for all the bene's that had fallen apart already. And speaking of falling apart, how's this for that warm and fuzzy feeling? http://www.beneteau235.com/f235_rudder.htm Gee, I think doing 12 to 14 knots for a few hours straight is a lot of fun. So is doing 100 miles in a day. This was probably Doug's reasoning to buy a powerboat. You're actually suggesting that sailing your boat is as entertaining as sailing a fast monohull? You've never sailed a cat at speed, so what do you know? Or as challenging? Puh-lease! You've already claimed that you didn't know how to sail the cat. They're not for everyone, you actually have to know how to sail. But still, riding a high performance boat for 30 minutes is different from a 50 mile spinnaker run. Someday, if your health improves, you may be able to do something like that. ... So keep trying to claim you have the best boat ever made, Booby. Never said that, Jeff. I said it was the best boat here. And that's a fact. You're not taking your PDQ any distances now. Have you used it much this season? I've said a number of times that the cat is a bit of overkill for how we use it now. However, we're already planning our next long trip, it may only be a couple of years off. And we're still arranging the schedule for next summer, but we want 3-4 weeks in Maine so we can get Down East again. And yes, we did use it a lot this season. We were out for 6 weeks plus a couple of weekends. We had guests join us for more than one night on three occasions. None had ever spent a night on a boat before. With 3 generous staterooms everyone gets a quality berth. Every night was spent at anchor or on a mooring, most meals were prepared on board. We have no A/C and yet, it was never horrific. A fast fun monohull like mine would suit you better. No, it wouldn't, not a chance. You just don't understand the type of boating we do. We went out for two daysails last summer, one was a "tuneup" and the other was with an old friend who is so agoraphobic she wouldn't go out of sight of the downtown waterfront. (It actually a big step - the first time she's been out with us in about 15 years!) Every other sail was for a cruise that took us 50 to 150 miles away. Although there were a number of small hops, the "traveling days" averaged 50 miles. We traveled almost every day we had planned, only adjusting for hurricane remnants. If the wind was light, we powered, otherwise we sailed. If the wind was strong and the seas rough, we still forged ahead. (Now that I think of it, I can't remember a time that we went out and then completely punted on the day.) Much of the time we were hanging out in places like Hadley's Harbor, Red Brook, Vineyard Haven, P'town, or Misery Island. We had our rowing/sailing dink, plus a tandem kayak with us. We got to swim and play, the dog swam and ran on the beach every day ... we had a blast. And being able to bring a friend makes all the difference for our daughter! What if we had your boat? The traveling would have taken longer. On those several days when the ride was rough we would have had a really nasty ride. I can drive my boat for 6 hours in any weather and still feel refreshed, you can't do that on your boat. Maybe your boat would be more fun for some of the sailing; it would be a lot less fun other times. A daysailor gets to say it doesn't look like a good day. When you come out of the Cape Cod Canal and there's no turning back, and no harbor for 20 miles, you have to be able to take what it gives. And when you get to your destination, which boat is more comfortable? Its not even close. You spend virtually all your time either tied up at the marina or sailing, then you go home. We spend the great majority of our time swinging at an anchor. Good grief! You've been touting A/C as a replacement for ventilation! You've been bragging about an electric stove! I appreciate that having a baby has slowed you down some. But even the year after ours was born we still went to the Vineyard in our 30 footer. Mooron can make a case because he likes full keelers. And here's another thing that sucks about your boat: It offers no workout. When we took out the 35s5 we found we could sail it easy, or push things an get a real workout on her. Can you do that with the PDQ? So now you're complaining that my boat is too easy to sail fast? OK, sure, that's part of what I like about it. I can raise the chute and be doing over 10 knots without breaking a sweat. If I want excitement I do it singlehanded. I considered that a great advantage - your boat can almost keep up with mine in winds over 12 knots, but only if you have a crew to handle the chute. Racers are measured by what they can do with 6 people on board; cruisers often only have 1 on deck. Sure, set up a Bowflex on the deck. Sorry, Jeff. We like sailing and the work and "discomforts" associated with that. To us the PDQ was about as interesting as a Trawler. You just didn't sail it. I doubt you were on it at all. Did you raise the chute? What kind was it? And what makes you think I have no sense of humor? Because you've yet to compliment me on my wit and skills trolling this group. You actually have no idea who I am or even if I have a boat...yet all of you scamper around me like frustrated seal pups! And THAT'S funny! Sorry bob, you're the one who's been on the hook all this time. For every post I've made, you've done ten. And you're still stuck with a bendy toy! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! RB ...a better boob NY |
The French Jap
rgnmstr wrote:
Jeff, you have to be the all time worst debater EVER, even worse than Sloco! Jeff, this means your kicking his ass. I don't have to, he kicks his own! |
The French Jap
OzOne wrote in message news: I get forktrucks from Korea every month and they come with a small 'shipping' Alum. propane tank. ? Yeah, standard LPG tank, only half the normal size, and Ally. They only fill them 10% and we have to return them. I met a guy on the weekend who imports forks here, I'll ask him when I see him next if that's how they arrive here. These are from Daewoo ( now bought out by Doosan). Scotty Interesting, do you know what the capacity is, usually expressed as water volume? We express the size by pounds. Standard tank is 44 pounder. These tanks are 20 pounders. Scotty |
The French Jap
OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:20:35 -0500, "Scotty" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message news: I get forktrucks from Korea every month and they come with a small 'shipping' Alum. propane tank. ? Yeah, standard LPG tank, only half the normal size, and Ally. They only fill them 10% and we have to return them. I met a guy on the weekend who imports forks here, I'll ask him when I see him next if that's how they arrive here. These are from Daewoo ( now bought out by Doosan). Scotty Interesting, do you know what the capacity is, usually expressed as water volume? We express the size by pounds. Standard tank is 44 pounder. These tanks are 20 pounders. Scotty Ahh OK, Std BBQ bottle size, 8.5kg, closer to 2' high to the top of the shroud and probably just short of 18" dia. Too big for most boat applications, but well worth having. I can't help wondering why we don't see them here, they'd be cheaper than SS or even Galv I'd think. Because you can't use them upside down? ;) They are kinda big for boat use. I could ''borrow'' a few, but I have CNG on my boat. Click in the spec page here; http://www.worthingtoncylinders.com/forklift.html SV |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:35 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com