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But the poor are taxed more heavily! Cigarette taxes,
booze taxes,
lotteries, gambling taxes, motel room taxes - it all
adds up!


Rich folks don't drink or smoke?

Statistically less than po folks.


That's not my statement, Scoot. Pete, I think, said that.

Ya can't have it
both ways--either the taxes discourage smoking or they
increase revenues,
but not both.

Why not?

Think about it.

The Laffer Curve says you can have both.


You mean to say Social security and medicare go to the
rich?

Yup. Just like it goes to the poor. You should know
that. Think of it
this way: when Bill Gates is 65, he'll collect his SS
that same as you and
me.


And why shouldn't he, he pays into it, the same as you and
me?

No reason--I was just countering a point made by someone else. And that
*is* my quote, by the way.


Medicare and medicaid do go to the rich. What does it pay for? The sick
person is just an intermediary.

Bill gates won't collect social security as you and I do. It's taxed.






Max

Do you drive out on I-70?

I'll buy you a sandwich. Do you know where Rip Griffin is?

Amen!



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More efficient use of energy and atomic power is the
way to go.

It's a good source of energy, and relatively efficient.
But the problem
of spent fuel disposal is still just that--a problem.

It's not a problem. Put it back into the ground, that's
where it came from.


We do that now, Bob. I was contacted just last week to haul
some old ''rod containers'' out to Utah, where they bury
them.
My buddy took a reactor head out there last Summer. They
bury the stuff in the desert.

Scotty

I'm not saying it would be easy, but it seems to me that's a lot of
space-ready stuff costing billions to just throw out.

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The shuttle should be scuttled.

Not yet, but its replacement is in the works. Too bad the works are so
gummed up lately.

I think they should launch them when they get the replacements and leave
them in orbit. They could convert them to being part of the space station.

You seem to have forgotten what it was like when Skylab ultimately
re-entered. Ask any Aussie. Each shuttle is nearly as massive as the ISS
itself.

Max

You told me to respond to his arguments. I said I did. It's up to him to
come back with something beyond a rant if he wants the debate to continue.

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Which prejudices are those? I'm glad you think I've "lost" the debate.

Sorry, Jon, but I have to agree with Pete. When you dismiss the
remainder of his argument as a rant and fail to respond to it
categorically, it would certainly appear you've lost.

I responded to all of his arguments at least once each. Sorry to
disappoint you.

Debates go back and forth. They are seldom concluded with one response
each. That would be tantamount to the Cheney approach, when the second
response is essentially '**** you and the horse you rode in on.'

Max

We would import the drugs of course. :-)

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What we need to do is legalize drugs, and tax them

That's a start. What we should do is put the cartels out of business by
producing those same drugs and selling them for less.

Oh, wait--the US hasn't been too adept at producing anything for less
these days, has it?

Never mind.

Max

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Rocket engines are not their only business. What operational rocket does
the US have compared tot he Russian Proton?

Dunno. Haven't researched it that thoroughly.

Why is the US using Russian engines?

Cheap?


The shuttle does move more gear and people. The Shuttle's big flaw was
building the engines into the airframe.

I wasn't aware of that. Why is that so?

Advanced tactical laser to fly soon.

What's the power source these days? Nuke?

Max

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Put it up on cinder blocks, in back of the shuttle hangar.

A better alternative, to be sure.


Amen!

Is Bob Crantz your sock puppet? Was that a slip?

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I'm not saying it would be easy, but it seems to me that's a lot of
space-ready stuff costing billions to just throw out.

The US space program throws out billions of dollars of "junk" every decade,
not to mention how much other "junk" gets left on the moon and mars, or just
orbits the Earth until the orbits decay sufficiently to allow it to re-enter
and burn up. Or crash down on Australia.

Max

"Scotty" wrote in message
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I have a 'sales tax exempt number', will that also work on
your new Fed. sales tax.

Huh-uh. In fact I'm proposing that those of you who've been sales tax
exempt should have an additional 5% tacked on just to make up for all the
sales tax you didn't pay before.

Max

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I think government should tax people and then just burn the money rather
than spend it.

I was under the impression that that is what it does now.

Max