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![]() "ZINK" wrote in message ... Okay, it's time for the annual rants. Assuming that wax is for bowling alleys and mustaches, what are the best products for cleaning, de-oxidizing, restoring and protecting fiberglass topsides Since topsides are that part of the hull that is exposed above the water line but below the sheer, wax or polymer coatings are fine. I assume, however, that you've mistakenly referred to such structures as the coach roof and other deck zones as "topsides," and those areas require somewhat different care. and decks. I expect that most will have different solutions for decks than they do for topsides. Lets hear it all, but include as much detail as possible. This is not looking for simple "votes". I want to hear the WHY in each response. I don't wax nonskid or even the parts of the deck that aren't non-skid. I simply clean them well and allow them to dry. If they are oxidized, some very mild polishing compound, such as Starbrite's Fiberglass Color Restorer, will polish the gelcoat sufficiently to make it look presentable, but of course it will re-oxidize with time and sun. Coachroof sides can be waxed, but even that's probably not a good idea. If you wish to avoid further oxidation, apply some wax or polymer sealant, but walk carefully when near those sides. They will be slippery when wet. Max |
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![]() "ZINK" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:54:43 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "ZINK" wrote in message . .. Okay, it's time for the annual rants. Assuming that wax is for bowling alleys and mustaches, what are the best products for cleaning, de-oxidizing, restoring and protecting fiberglass topsides Since topsides are that part of the hull that is exposed above the water line but below the sheer, wax or polymer coatings are fine. I assume, however, that you've mistakenly referred to such structures as the coach roof and other deck zones as "topsides," and those areas require somewhat different care. and decks. I expect that most will have different solutions for decks than they do for topsides. Lets hear it all, but include as much detail as possible. This is not looking for simple "votes". I want to hear the WHY in each response. I don't wax nonskid or even the parts of the deck that aren't non-skid. I simply clean them well and allow them to dry. If they are oxidized, some very mild polishing compound, such as Starbrite's Fiberglass Color Restorer, will polish the gelcoat sufficiently to make it look presentable, but of course it will re-oxidize with time and sun. Coachroof sides can be waxed, but even that's probably not a good idea. If you wish to avoid further oxidation, apply some wax or polymer sealant, but walk carefully when near those sides. They will be slippery when wet. Max You have misjudged, Maxpropeller. I fully know the difference between topsides and deck. That's why I specifically mentioned both. I would like to assume that in a newsgroup with the name "alt.sailing.asa" basic nomenclature would not be an issue. Meanwhile, there are many products on the market that are aimed specifically at coating and protecting nonskid and decks that are not slippery when either wet or dry. Are there any folks out there who have boats and experience that can do better than poor "Maxprop"? Thank you You sound a bit too defensive to be credible, Z. But I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt and presume you know the difference. Sadly most "sailors" are clueless, referring to anything above the sheerline as "the topsides." My boat is Awlgripped, so I use US Paint's products. However, I've used a variety of products on gelcoat over the decades. One I particularly like for removing oxidation is Yachtbrite's Buff Magic, a mild polishing compound with *no* abrasive, but a very definite polishing action. I don't know how it works, but it does, and very nicely when used with a polishing wheel. I've also used 3M's Finessit with good results, but like the Yachtbrite Buff Magic better for several reasons: it is a paste, not a liquid, and it doesn't seem remove gelcoat as aggressively as the Finessit does. Following a good single buffing and removal of the residue, I like Collinite Fleetwax paste for long-lasting shine and protection. More recently, however, I tried Meguiar's Tech Wax on a friend's boat with amazing results. After a day in the sun, the topsides looked like new gelcoat. And the boat still looked great 6 months later. I may try this stuff on my Alwgrip, if I can determine it's chemical makeup. It's a car polish/sealant, and I use it on my vehicles, but I suspect it might find its way into the offshore go-fast boat crowd, who always seem to be looking for something to make their boats shinier. Hope that help. Poor "Maxprop" |
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![]() "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... My boat is Awlgripped, so I use US Paint's products. Maxprop, my boat is also Awlgripped. It was done in USA before I brought her over here but Awlgrip is not heard of here although there are probably similar products sold under different names. Anyway, it is a lovely white finish but after the winter layup she needs cleaning off and waxing-or something. What US Paint product do you use? |
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It is you that has misjudged Maxprop, for he is superior to
all of us. You can tell by the coffee he drinks. SBV "ZINK" wrote in message ... You have misjudged, Maxpropeller. I fully know the difference between topsides and deck. That's why I specifically mentioned both. I would like to assume that in a newsgroup with the name "alt.sailing.asa" basic nomenclature would not be an issue. Are there any folks out there who have boats and experience that can do better than poor "Maxprop"? Thank you Z |
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![]() "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... My boat is Awlgripped, so I use US Paint's products. Maxprop, my boat is also Awlgripped. It was done in USA before I brought her over here but Awlgrip is not heard of here although there are probably similar products sold under different names. Anyway, it is a lovely white finish but after the winter layup she needs cleaning off and waxing-or something. What US Paint product do you use? Awlwash for cleanup, and Awlcare for polishing/sealing. Frankly I really don't know if either product is any different from the myriad other products of similar use on the market, but I can get them in bulk--which makes them price competitive with the other products--and they do a nice job. I have a friend whose boat is Awlgripped in flag blue, and he power buffs his topsides (a no-no) annually with a non-US Paint approved wax, and with excellent results. So I suspect other products will work well on their paint. Just avoid Teflon-based waxes and those with intrinsic cleaners (abrasives). Awlgrip maintains its shine through the integrity of the surface. Once that surface is breeched by abrasives, the shine is lost. Try any non-US Paint product on a small area before doing the whole boat, just to be safe. I'm going to try Meguiar's Tech Wax this year, but only a tiny spot near the transom. If it works okay, I'll probably do the entire topsides with it next year. My boat is hunter green. Hope that helps. By the way, where are you? Max |
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![]() "Scotty" wrote in message ... It is you that has misjudged Maxprop, for he is superior to all of us. You can tell by the coffee he drinks. I also shoot better than Mooron, and that should stand for something, right? Max |
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![]() "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... Awlwash for cleanup, and Awlcare for polishing/sealing. Frankly I really don't know if either product is any different from the myriad other products of similar use on the market, but I can get them in bulk--which makes them price competitive with the other products--and they do a nice job. I have a friend whose boat is Awlgripped in flag blue, and he power buffs his topsides (a no-no) annually with a non-US Paint approved wax, and with excellent results. So I suspect other products will work well on their paint. Just avoid Teflon-based waxes and those with intrinsic cleaners (abrasives). Awlgrip maintains its shine through the integrity of the surface. Once that surface is breeched by abrasives, the shine is lost. Try any non-US Paint product on a small area before doing the whole boat, just to be safe. I'm going to try Meguiar's Tech Wax this year, but only a tiny spot near the transom. If it works okay, I'll probably do the entire topsides with it next year. My boat is hunter green. Hope that helps. By the way, where are you? Max |
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Maxprop, thanks for that. I will try some local boatwash stuff to get the
dirt off and then wax it. I am on the Oslo fjord, and my boat is based in a marina on the island of Tjøme which is just south of Tønsberg, Norways oldest town and once the centre of the whaling industry. Oslo is about 50 miles north of us. Superb sailing in the fjord but there are more power boats going at full blast round here than I have ever seen before. But, as always, if you go offshore a bit they are much rarer. They seem to prefer to race through the narrower and more crowded areas at top speeds up to 50 knots. Last year I saw a guy in a large RIB, maybe 25/30 ft and he had three 300 hp outboards on the stern! "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... My boat is Awlgripped, so I use US Paint's products. Maxprop, my boat is also Awlgripped. It was done in USA before I brought her over here but Awlgrip is not heard of here although there are probably similar products sold under different names. Anyway, it is a lovely white finish but after the winter layup she needs cleaning off and waxing-or something. What US Paint product do you use? Awlwash for cleanup, and Awlcare for polishing/sealing. Frankly I really don't know if either product is any different from the myriad other products of similar use on the market, but I can get them in bulk--which makes them price competitive with the other products--and they do a nice job. I have a friend whose boat is Awlgripped in flag blue, and he power buffs his topsides (a no-no) annually with a non-US Paint approved wax, and with excellent results. So I suspect other products will work well on their paint. Just avoid Teflon-based waxes and those with intrinsic cleaners (abrasives). Awlgrip maintains its shine through the integrity of the surface. Once that surface is breeched by abrasives, the shine is lost. Try any non-US Paint product on a small area before doing the whole boat, just to be safe. I'm going to try Meguiar's Tech Wax this year, but only a tiny spot near the transom. If it works okay, I'll probably do the entire topsides with it next year. My boat is hunter green. Hope that helps. By the way, where are you? Max |
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![]() "Edgar" wrote in message ... Maxprop, thanks for that. I will try some local boatwash stuff to get the dirt off and then wax it. I am on the Oslo fjord, and my boat is based in a marina on the island of Tjøme which is just south of Tønsberg, Norways oldest town and once the centre of the whaling industry. Oslo is about 50 miles north of us. Superb sailing in the fjord but there are more power boats going at full blast round here than I have ever seen before. But, as always, if you go offshore a bit they are much rarer. They seem to prefer to race through the narrower and more crowded areas at top speeds up to 50 knots. Last year I saw a guy in a large RIB, maybe 25/30 ft and he had three 300 hp outboards on the stern! We keep hoping the high fuel prices will discourage powerboaters, but no such luck. They seem to be inflation-proof around here. I've seen photos of the Oslo fjord, and it's a gorgeous place. You're luck to be there. Max |
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Maxprop wrote:
We keep hoping the high fuel prices will discourage powerboaters, but no such luck. They seem to be inflation-proof around here. If you can afford several hundred thousand for a high powered penis substitute, the cost of fuel is rather unimportant! ;-) Cheers Marty |
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