"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Max, why waste sailing time? Sell the thing to someone who wants the
job and buy a better Laser hull. They are very cheap and easy to find.
I have a nice hull for 300 bucks...you're too far away though.

I want to give the boat to some kids for the purpose of learning to sail.
Hate to just throw it away. With the exception of the hull/deck bond, it's
in relatively good shape.

Max

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Swab Rob" wrote
Max, why waste sailing time? Sell the thing to someone who
wants the
job and buy a better Laser hull. They are very cheap and
easy to find.
I have a nice hull for 300 bucks...you're too far away
though.


yeah, no sense fixing things.

If a winch stops working, sell the boat!

I wonder if the ashtrays are full on the Kia yet?

Max

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:34:14 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:

Questions:

I have an old Laser which has a hull/deck flange. The bond is lost along
quite a bit of the flange. It appears that someone attempted to rebond it
with epoxy at one time, but unsuccessfully.

My questions are these: 1) Since polyurethane adhesive, such as 3M 5200,
is
often used as a hull-to-deck bonding agent on larger boats, wouldn't
polyurethane be suitable for a smaller boat, too? 2) The space between
the
two shells along the flange is too narrow to get something as thick as
5200
to flow into it. Since Gorilla Glue is a polyurethane adhesive, any
reason
it wouldn't work as well? It would flow nicely into the space and it
expands when it cures, which would fill the space nicely.

Any opinions or experience with Gorilla?

TIA,

Max



I would not use Gorilla glue. It expands but if the cracks are too
big it expands in the maner of an expanding foam and offers no real
strength in the crack or is it likely to be a waterproof seal.

wear gloves if you use Gorilla glue for any purpose. If it cures on
your hands they will turn black and only time will remove it.

This seems to be the consensus. Back to West System epoxy.

Thanks, everyone.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Max, why waste sailing time? Sell the thing to someone who wants the
job and buy a better Laser hull. They are very cheap and easy to find.
I have a nice hull for 300 bucks...you're too far away though.

I want to give the boat to some kids for the purpose of learning to sail.
Hate to just throw it away. With the exception of the hull/deck bond, it's
in relatively good shape.

Max


Doante it to the Muskegon Yacht Club...the kids there fix things all the
time...

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in

Check the 3M website for adhesives. They have some amazing
stuff. The had
some spray adhesives that held Katys' beehive together at
over Mach 1

Glory!



The beehive tested was on a Mach1 Flying Monkey.

I probably worked harder than you.

SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Gee, and I thought I did well with getting $1500 for about
10 hours....

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Swab Rob" wrote

Scotty's time is worth nothing, so he'll waste a day
fixing a 300
dollar hull. I was paid 470.00 for a post insurance sea
trial last week
and make 70 dollars per hour. My time is not something
to
be wasted
when I can be sailing.

On Monday I made $2200 in 14 hours. You do the math.

But yesterday I spent 4 hours changing 2 motorcycle
tires,
about a $30 bill from a bike shop.

Go figure.

S

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Swab Rob" wrote
Max, why waste sailing time? Sell the thing to someone
who
wants the
job and buy a better Laser hull. They are very cheap
and
easy to find.
I have a nice hull for 300 bucks...you're too far away
though.


yeah, no sense fixing things.

If a winch stops working, sell the boat!

I wonder if the ashtrays are full on the Kia yet?

Bob doesn't smoke, he's not allowed to have matches.

SV

Oh crap, the Bull **** meter just broke again!



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"Swab Rob" wrote

No, I work under the boatyard's insurance and
certification. I also
handled a boat tow last week, piloting a 24 foot tow-boat
to bring is a
disabled Columbia 34. I've captained 4 sea trials over the
last few
weeks as well. At this point there's no boat I can't
handle, though I'm
still rough around the edges with bigger twin screw
yachts.
If things continue onward and upward, I'll probably end up
having to
get a captain's licence so I can do jobs outside of the
yard. No big
deal...my ex-girlfriend passed hers just by reading the
book and taking
one nav class at the Museum of Natural History.


RB
35s5
NY

Maxprop wrote:
This seems to be the consensus. Back to West System epoxy.


It's not the cheapest stuff, but it's tried & true.

One way to fix this type of joint is to grind the gelcoat
off the outside and wrap fiberglass tape around it. Fill
gaps with silica filler (WS 406) and then slurry over that
with microfibers (WS 403), then fiberglass tape. When
sanding it smooth, don't cut thru the cloth any more than
you can help it.

If you want it really strong, use a light biaxial tape such
used for airplane kits. I used some of this stuff for the
first time

http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog...b58f72751 4db

or

http://tinyurl.com/nd2o3

and found it to be outstanding to work with... wraps easily,
wets out very evenly, strong enough for a battleship. The
Cadillace way to do it would be a strip of 1" then a strip
of 2" over it.

It still won't be as strong as cutting the hull free from
the deck and rebonding them, but it should be a lot quicker.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

It's really sad that at his age he's still looking for a
job.

Scotty


"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Congratulations on your honesty. I totally believe the
part
where you said "No."

DSK



So you're a full member of either SAMS or NAMS?


"Capt" Rob wrote:
No, I work under the boatyard's insurance and
certification. I also
handled a boat tow last week, piloting a 24 foot
tow-boat to bring is a
disabled Columbia 34. I've captained 4 sea trials over
the last few
weeks as well. At this point there's no boat I can't
handle, though I'm
still rough around the edges with bigger twin screw
yachts.
If things continue onward and upward, I'll probably end
up having to
get a captain's licence so I can do jobs outside of the
yard. No big
deal...my ex-girlfriend passed hers just by reading the
book and taking
one nav class at the Museum of Natural History.