Hey Bubbles!

Since you know so much about EKG recording I'll help you out:

A 12 lead EKG is recorded on 10 wires!

That's right you fool!

Here's a handy reference:

http://www.mikecowley.co.uk/leads.htm

It's so funny, you being Mr Audio and now Mr Cardiac Nurse, you couldn't
even fight your way out of that wet paper bag! Do you know why? It's because
you lack any understanding of what you are saying!

A 12 lead EKG is recorded on 10 wires and you don't even get it!!!!!

Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Oh my God! My sides are splitting!!!! I just peed my pants from laughing so
hard!!!!!

You are a totally inept clown boy!!!!!!

You really messed up that troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Facts + logic + real world experience (decades worth no less!) = total
MEGASMACKDOWN of RB!!!!!!!!

BWOOOHAHAHAHAOOOHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob,
for a bonus point: why do they call it EKG when the initials clearly should
be ECG?
Scout

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
news
Hey Bubbles!

Since you know so much about EKG recording I'll help you out:

A 12 lead EKG is recorded on 10 wires!

That's right you fool!

Here's a handy reference:

http://www.mikecowley.co.uk/leads.htm

It's so funny, you being Mr Audio and now Mr Cardiac Nurse, you couldn't
even fight your way out of that wet paper bag! Do you know why? It's
because you lack any understanding of what you are saying!

A 12 lead EKG is recorded on 10 wires and you don't even get it!!!!!

Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Oh my God! My sides are splitting!!!! I just peed my pants from laughing
so hard!!!!!

You are a totally inept clown boy!!!!!!

You really messed up that troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Facts + logic + real world experience (decades worth no less!) = total
MEGASMACKDOWN of RB!!!!!!!!

BWOOOHAHAHAHAOOOHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my God! My sides are splitting!!!! I just peed my pants from
laughing so
hard!!!!!


So now you hunted around, saw all the 12 lead ECG references and the
fact that even 6, 8 or 9 leads are often used and you burp out this
info. 10 leads is used at St. Francis and it's clearly defined in the
text. Each lead leads to a sensor.
Oh, and I'm not a nurse and in spite of all your desperate googling,
you aren't either. I simply asked Suzanne what's used at the best Heart
hospital.
Another loss, Bob. You can't google against someone who actually works
in a hospital.

Sorry, Dude. Like I said, you slipped down the slippery slope about 2
months ago. Now you just sound like everyone else.

RB
35s5
NY

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Bob,
for a bonus point: why do they call it EKG when the initials clearly
should be ECG?
Scout


From the inventor, Einthoven who was German. Electrokardiograph.

Usually the k implies kinetic which would mean the mechanical motion of the
heart. Instead ballistocardiogram is used called a BCG.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Oh my God! My sides are splitting!!!! I just peed my pants from
laughing so
hard!!!!!


So now you hunted around, saw all the 12 lead ECG references and the
fact that even 6, 8 or 9 leads are often used and you burp out this
info. 10 leads is used at St. Francis and it's clearly defined in the
text. Each lead leads to a sensor.

Each lead goes to an electrode on the distal end and to a instrumentation
amplifier on the proximal end.

Oh, and I'm not a nurse and in spite of all your desperate googling,
you aren't either.

I'm definitely not a nurse! I can sure Google quite a bit about cardiology
and understand too!

I simply asked Suzanne what's used at the best Heart
hospital.
Another loss, Bob. You can't google against someone who actually works
in a hospital.

I agree. I also, on occasion, work in hospitals.


Sorry, Dude. Like I said, you slipped down the slippery slope about 2
months ago. Now you just sound like everyone else.


Aaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

And who told you 12 lead ECG's were measured with 10 wires?

Why didn't you or Suzy (a nurse who works in a hospital!) know this?

Neither of you even know the correct nomeclature for medical measurements!

Bwaahahahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!!!!

Hmm, given your track record here I'm usually inclined to agree with you.
However, you should know that the head of our Health Occ Program (for which
I am the administrator, if you can believe it!) has informed me that the K
is used to prevent any misunderstandings in an emergency room, where an ECG
sounds too much like EEG. Of course, the truth could be a little of each. I
asked the question recently when we purchased two ECG machines. I was
curious.
Scout


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
news

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Bob,
for a bonus point: why do they call it EKG when the initials clearly
should be ECG?
Scout


From the inventor, Einthoven who was German. Electrokardiograph.

Usually the k implies kinetic which would mean the mechanical motion of
the heart. Instead ballistocardiogram is used called a BCG.

Aaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

And who told you 12 lead ECG's were measured with 10 wires?


Nobody. You said "leads." I asked Suzanne how many leads are used. She
said 10. St. Francis uses 10, the books say 10 or 9.
You can yelp all you want...it won't change a thing. And getting back
to the original topic, Suzanne has emergency medical training that most
of the folks here don't have.
Our boat remains the safest on ASA.

Thems the facts!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Aaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

And who told you 12 lead ECG's were measured with 10 wires?


Nobody. You said "leads." I asked Suzanne how many leads are used. She
said 10. St. Francis uses 10, the books say 10 or 9.

St Francis requires 12 lead EKG experience of their nurses. I can repost
that information for a third time.

Tell me what this 12 lead EKG is that they advertise.

Here's you quoted:

"Bob in addition to smacking yourself down because you failed to
understand what aptitude meant, you also have no idea what modern
nurses do. Here's a hint, Bob. Suzanne had to be able to read a 10 lead
strip before being hired. At a heart speciality hospital, like St.
Francis uses 10. Yes, it's complex, but she had to learn it.
SMACKDOWN again!"


RB
35s5
NY

10 lead ECG is what you said. Not 10 wire. No one uses a 10 lead ECG.

Keep floppoing about. I pointed out 10 wires.

St Francis requirement of nurses:

ID: 329.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K1
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 248.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: M2
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shiftays, 7A - 3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 271.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: CTICU
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P-11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 280.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K1
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Nights, 11P-7A, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 311.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: CCU
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shiftays, 7A - 3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 319.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: Women's Health Center
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: Current Nurse Extender experience required
FTE: Per Diem
Shift:Per Diem, Days, M-F
Location: Brookville

ID: 320.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: Emergency Room
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part TIme
Shiftays, 7A-3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 41.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: CTICU
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 85.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K3
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 111.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K1
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P-11P including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 141.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: M2
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shiftays, 7A - 3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 176.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: Emergency Room
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Full Time
Shiftays, 7A - 3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 182.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: P2
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 184.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: P2
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Nights, 11P - 7A, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

ID: 206.06
Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: M3
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shiftays, 7A - 3P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Hmm, given your track record here I'm usually inclined to agree with you.
However, you should know that the head of our Health Occ Program (for
which I am the administrator, if you can believe it!) has informed me that
the K is used to prevent any misunderstandings in an emergency room, where
an ECG sounds too much like EEG. Of course, the truth could be a little of
each. I asked the question recently when we purchased two ECG machines. I
was curious.
Scout


That was just my guess. Maybe we should ask RB. His wife is a nurse that
works in a famous cardiac hospital.

What brand of machines did you purchase?

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocardiogram