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Bob Crantz August 25th 06 04:07 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...


they want functionality, practicality
and value.

Value? On a sailboat? Costco cushions? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Are you clueless or retarded? Costco does not sell camo cushions. Cabela's
does.

Busted!



Bob Crantz August 25th 06 04:10 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 
§160.049-4 Construction and workmanship.
(a) General. This specification covers buoyant cushions of the box type
filled with unicellular plastic foam buoyant material. Such cushions consist
essentially of a buoyant insert contained in an outer cover fitted with grab
straps. The primary purpose of such cushions is to provide buoyancy to aid a
person in keeping afloat in the water. Buoyant cushions providing less than
20 pounds buoyancy or less than 2 inches in thickness will not be
acceptable.

(b) Cover. One piece of material each for the top and bottom shall be
stitched together to form the cover except that piecing of the cover
material will be allowed provided it is for decorative purposes only. Gusset
or boxing materials shall be of not more than two pieces. If more than one
piece of material is used for the top, bottom, boxing or gusset, they shall
be attached by a double row of stitching of the type shown in Federal
Standard No. 751, for Seam types SSw-2 or LSb-2. The top and bottom may be
of any of the materials permitted for the cover, but the boxing or gusset
shall be a cotton fabric as specified by §160.049-3(b)(1) or other
equivalent material of a porous nature. Nonporous materials will not be
permitted for the boxing or gusset, but coated upholstery cloth specified by
§160.049-3(c)(2), perforated to permit adequate draining and drying will be
acceptable.

(c) Buoyant material. A buoyant insert for a buoyant cushion must comply
with the requirements in paragraph (c) (1) and (2) of this section and may
be:

(1) Molded in one piece; or

(2) Built up from sheet material if it is formed from:

(i) Three pieces or less in each layer, cemented together with an
all-purpose vinyl adhesive such as or equivalent to U.S. Rubber No. M-6256
or Minnesota Mining No. EC-870 and No. EC-1070;

(ii) Three layers or less that may be cemented; and

(iii) Staggered butts and seams of adjacent layers.

(d) Grab Straps. Grab straps shall be attached as shown on Dwg. No.
160,049-1 and shall finish 20 inches long and 1 inch wide at opposite ends.
The grab straps, if formed from cover material shall be folded and stitched
together so as to produce a double thickness with raw edges turned under.
Other means will be given special consideration.

(e) Seams and stitching. Seams shall be constructed with not less than a
3/8-inch border between the seam and the edge of the cover materials. All
stitching shall be a lock stitch, 7 to 9 stitches per inch, except as
follows: Chain stitching 6 to 8 stitches per inch with 20/4 thread on top
and 40/3 thread on the bottom, will be acceptable in constructing grab
straps.

(f) Workmanship. All cushions shall be of first class workmanship and shall
be free from defects materially affecting their appearance or
serviceability. Cushions classified as "seconds" or "irregular" will not be
acceptable under this specification.

[CGFR 65-37, 30 FR 11586, Sept. 10, 1965, as amended by CGD 72-163R, 38 FR
8119, Mar. 28, 1973]



Capt. Rob August 25th 06 05:13 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 

Your ignorance is on compleat display. USCG mandates that the handles
remain
and the cushions be ready to be thrown to someone who is in the water.



Bob, you really should not be such an asshole. Seriously. Those
cushions are dangerous for toddlers and have resulted in face-down
drownings due to the handles. Most people know this if they sail.
No surprise that you don't. Please don't troll with info that can hurt
a child.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob August 25th 06 05:18 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 

Bob Crantz wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

Loose cushions strewn around the cockpit are a safety hazard.


No loose cushions, like you they are firmly under someone's ass.




Bob, even in your trolls, you display amazing ignorance regarding boat
safety. Loose cushions in a cockpit are not a good idea while sailing.
They should be secured and since most people tend to move around on a
boat, your cheap cushions end up flying about, underfoot and so on.
Messy, dangerous and cheap.
For you it's the last word, "cheap" that dictates your poor logic.
Proper cockpit cushions should be close cell and fastened down for
safety. If you find 900 bucks too expensive, be a real man and just sit
on the seat without a cushion. We rarely bother with them underway.
Yet another Crantz troll dies.



RB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz August 25th 06 05:23 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 
In article ,
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:56:43 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
roups.com...
Cockpit cushions are expensive and not so functional.



Yes, they're very unpopular for that reason.


Up until now. With the disclosure of my good advice, hundreds if not
thousands will run out to purchase USCG approved throw cushions and outfit
their fine vessels with the ultimate in comfort and functionality.


Loose cushions strewn around the cockpit are a safety hazard.


Easy fix... crazy glue them to the seats of either the cockpit or the
people.


--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt. Rob August 25th 06 05:26 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 

crazy glue them to the seats of either the cockpit or the
people.



Surely it's Bob C's favorite glue.




RB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz August 25th 06 05:33 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 
Those are the requirements for a cushion that is intended to qualify
as your ONE required throwable device. Rob has a throwable device
mounted on the aft of his boat. It's a throwable ring with a line
attached. He doesn't need his cushions to conform to those
requirements.


Doesn't it have the readily accessible? The CG might argue that it's
not because its line is tied and not easily deployable.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz August 25th 06 06:19 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 
In article ,
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 09:33:59 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz)
wrote:

Those are the requirements for a cushion that is intended to qualify
as your ONE required throwable device. Rob has a throwable device
mounted on the aft of his boat. It's a throwable ring with a line
attached. He doesn't need his cushions to conform to those
requirements.


Doesn't it have the readily accessible? The CG might argue that it's
not because its line is tied and not easily deployable.


I think "readily accessible" means it isn't buried under a huge pile
of crap in the bottom of a lazzerette. What about lifeslings that are
kept in a container that has to be opened?

Legally, your throwable device doesn't even have to have a line
attached to it, although most think it's a pretty good idea anyway.


I think you're right, but it would be a matter of interpretation by
whomever boards the boat. Given the other safety issues, such as
drinking, they might get picky.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Bob Crantz August 25th 06 07:33 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...


Those are the requirements for a cushion that is intended to qualify
as your ONE required throwable device. Rob has a throwable device
mounted on the aft of his boat. It's a throwable ring with a line
attached. He doesn't need his cushions to conform to those
requirements.


Rob's horseshoe is the cushion for his toilet seat.

All my cushions are USCG approved!

Are yours?



Jonathan Ganz August 25th 06 07:34 PM

Catalina cockpit cushions?
 
In article ,
Charlie Morgan wrote:
I know a catankerous old guy who was being checked out and they asked
him why there was no line on his throwable. His respose was: "Well, if
someone falls off my boat, I don't mind throwing them a life ring, but
I sure as hell don't want 'em back on my boat!

They let it pass.


I always ask people to stow their wallets/purses below just in case of
such an eventuality. :-)

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com




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