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![]() So let's count the idiotic remarks from Sloco...and the somewhat quiet support he's getting from Doug......as usual I back my statements with pictures, lofts and actual measurement of the main. I don't have the genny yet...so we'll wait for Sloco's jealous green dragon rant on that next week! And so.... Sloco states that the hoist is short on the Kevlar main for the 35s5. His reason for this is that it's beneath the black stripe on the rig. But who put that stripe there? Beneteau? Sloco's mommy? Is it right, wrong or just the mark for a sail that died long ago with minimal roach? Here's a closer look at the 35s5 masthead. No stripe, folks! http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/mast1.jpg No sign of a stripe ever having been there. The reason? Not all 35s5's were ordered with sails and max hoist is listed in the data sheet. Oh...and where's that second stripe you claimed was a mast extrusion, Sloco? Hmmmm? Busted to 20th power! Anyway, my boat was shipped with stock sails and I still have NO STRIPE. Is the hoist really short? Hmmm. We get a P of 42.65 on the sail, which is exactly right. So what about that black band on the other boat? Who put it there? Sloco seems to trust the guy who taped it on like they just had sex, but not lofts like UK or Doyle. He also doesn't trust his eyes since I posted pics showing 35s5's with the same hoist....here they are AGAIN! http://home.att.net/~captnerdo/images/Footloos.gif http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/6/...?1160803964000 http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/35s5spin.jpg Pic #2 shows the highest hoist and perhaps no roach at all. BTW, take a look at Pic #3. Sloco somehow can't see the two stripes and claims one is an extrusion that's absent from the 35s5 masthead shot. Uh oh! They all seem to have a hoist that looks a bit short, but it's actually correct and this is how they look on every 35s5 I've seen. Now, if the loft is wrong, and the guy who ordered the sail is wrong and Beneteau is wrong....uh, never mind! Let's move on to an even more hilarious comment from Sloco and Doug. These clowns suggest that I should have a roachy sail with max hoist and let it foul the backstay!!!! Now, I'll admit I've seen this, but no one I know looks for it when ordering a sail. In light air it can foul. In fact it can even foul when raising the main! It wears the sail as well. No one that I know has a sail overlapping the backstay. But more importantly, Doug and Sloco can only flush their jealousy by attacking the sail on very absolute terms. Could it have a higher hoist? I think it can go up another few inched and still miss the backstay. The loft says it's correct as is. The main and genny were not made for all-out racing. The genny is cut higher and flat. It does not sweep the deck as planned for the below deck furler. The main is also flatter than a typical 35s5 cut. They were made to be fast and a bit easier to handle for a short handed crew. Since I'm sailing with my wife and a toddler, this will be a great combo. Nobody but a racing nut is going to care about the exact hoist. The sail will work well, tack smoothly and look great. Same for the genny. It's what we need for our casual sailing, even if the exotic build and materials offend Sloco! Okay...it's much more than we need I suppose. And all for thousands less than Sloco would pay. Doug has no need for sails of course. Good night....I'm off to a gallery party in Manhattan. Enjoy your TV dinners. RB 35s5 NY |
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![]() No answer from Sloco or Doug on this one of course! Poor jealous sailors!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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No answer from Sloco or Doug on this one of course!
Hey Dufas, everybody doesn't spend their every waking moment on the internet. As far as your swim platform not having a black band to indicate full hoist that's either the builder's fault or the spar makers fault. And if those two fell asleep that the incompetents who commissioned the boat didn't do their job. As far as the other photos go they are too fuzzy to indicate anything. As far as your great new main being designed short because of some huge roach well that's just plain bunk. The spar designer builds the stick with enough room over the designed full hoist (read black band) to allow for a max roach sail to pass thru the backstay. That much is proven by your own photos and can be seen on any boat. Your deal sail is worth exactly what you paid for it. 50% off. The original purchaser probably turned it down. 35s5 sails better with a reef. |
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![]() Hey Dufas, everybody doesn't spend their every waking moment on the internet. No? I was out sailing today and you weren't. Video to be posted shortly! As far as your swim platform not having a black band to indicate full hoist that's either the builder's fault or the spar makers fault. Which has nothing to do with your assumption that the photos of the main's hoist shows a black band where it belongs. As far as the other photos go they are too fuzzy to indicate anything. And yet you clearly posted that the TWO black stripes were actually one strope and some sort of extrusion...until I posted a pic of my masthead and shot THAT silly comment down! As far as your great new main being designed short because of some huge roach well that's just plain bunk. And yet it's clear to others here. And it was clear to the folks at Doyle who'd have been far better served to agree with you. They don't. The spar designer builds the stick with enough room over the designed full hoist (read black band) to allow for a max roach sail to pass thru the backstay. Utter nonsense. Many sailmakers have added more roach that was planned for in the orginal designs. That much is proven by your own photos and can be seen on any boat. Which photos??? The one with a black stripe in a clearly different spot than other pics I posted....or my boat with no stripe? Your deal sail is worth exactly what you paid for it. 50% off. Do you really think I paid 1200.00 and got only half off on a Kevlar main and Pentax Mylar genoa along with new lazy jacks? Do you even know what these sails cost new? The main is in near 10 condition. I've yet to see the jib, but was rated at a 8-9. The original purchaser probably turned it down. Orginal purchaser bought them late 2004. He was kinda happy with them as you can see here.... http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/m...eteau_35s5.htm He was unable to use the boat much in 2005 and is selling her now for a smaller boat. He didn't want to give the premium sails away in the sale and traded them in for future work. Dude, give it up. You've been blasted on EVERY point. What's worse we hoisted the sail today to test the fit and swap halyards and I have much worse news for you! But that thread and pic will be saved for a bit so I can really make you squirm! When I post the pic of the hoisted sail you'll have to eat every word and eat 'em dry! RB 35s5 NY |