On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:08:39 -0500, Jeff wrote:

a half mile of stuff snipped

You win Jeff, if that's what you want.

"katy" wrote in message
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Yeah, I have...Evansville and used to go to Lake
Carlyle....sorry...Indiana is really a boring state....IMO....

EVANSVILLE??? How unfortunate of you to have picked the armpit of the
state. It's not particularly pretty there, but between Indianapolis and
halfway to the IN/KY border is some of the most attractive country in the
Midwest. Limestone hills and cliffs, hardwoods, lakes, rivers, a natural
paradise. It's more beautiful than the hilly region of northern Michigan,
IMO. And you missed it.

Max

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Several years ago a fishing tug disappeared on Lake

Michigan on a clear,

calm, sunny day without a trace. It was almost a year

before they

located the wreck. It had been crushed, and linear red

paint streaks

were all over the boat. The investigation was

relatively easy, and the

red barge that ran the tug down was located in Chicago,

sporting damage

to the bow and underbelly. Charges were filed and the

"captain" who

skippered the tug pushing the barge either faces trial

for, or has been

convicted of, negligent homicide--I can't recall which.

Rather supports your theory stated in your first

paragraph, Scoot.

Am I Scoot or is Scotty Scoot?? :-o
Scout

Scotty = Scooter = Scoot.

Also known as Capt Neal, Binary Bill, Joe Redcloud, OzOne,
Dr. Armpit, Jax, Loco, Marty, Capt Mooron, Nav, Bart and
Max.

SBVCNBBJRODAJLMCMNBM

You're me? How am I enjoying living in Pennsylvania?


You love it!
Scout
He shouldn't complain...PA's better than Indiana any day...

Huh?

We both have lots of Amish
We both have similar weather.
We both have adjacent Great Lakes.
The only difference I see is that here in Indiana we don't have any town
named Bird in Hand or a major league baseball team.

Max

Don't forget the towns of "Blue Ball" or my favorite, "Intercourse"
Scout

Yeah. PA always has had town names with sexual connotations. Must have
something to do with the early Shaker settlers there (can you say 'sexually
repressed?').

Max

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:55:23 GMT, "Maxprop"
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"katy" wrote in message
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Yeah, I have...Evansville and used to go to Lake
Carlyle....sorry...Indiana is really a boring state....IMO....

EVANSVILLE??? How unfortunate of you to have picked the armpit of the
state. It's not particularly pretty there, but between Indianapolis and
halfway to the IN/KY border is some of the most attractive country in the
Midwest. Limestone hills and cliffs, hardwoods, lakes, rivers, a natural
paradise. It's more beautiful than the hilly region of northern Michigan,
IMO. And you missed it.

Max

And just a hop, skip and a jump from Kentucky Lake and Lake Barkley,
which are very nice.

Frank

Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Yeah, I have...Evansville and used to go to Lake
Carlyle....sorry...Indiana is really a boring state....IMO....


EVANSVILLE??? How unfortunate of you to have picked the armpit of the
state. It's not particularly pretty there, but between Indianapolis and
halfway to the IN/KY border is some of the most attractive country in the
Midwest. Limestone hills and cliffs, hardwoods, lakes, rivers, a natural
paradise. It's more beautiful than the hilly region of northern Michigan,
IMO. And you missed it.

Max


No I didn't...we drove that this summer when we went to Mammoth...bumper
to bumper traffic all the way from Indy to Louisville...was
horrendous...and the smog was terrific....was glad when we got over the
border past Louisville (another stinking city...can't imagine how the
horses breathe to race)

Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:08:39 -0500, Jeff wrote:

a half mile of stuff snipped

You win Jeff, if that's what you want.

No Frank, its not about winning, its about setting the record
straight. I was thinking about this in a Chinese Food/Chocolate
induced stupor in the middle of the night and it became clear what
happened to you: Your engine died and you had to come into the marina
under sail, maybe singlehanded, clearly a stressful situation. You
assumed that anyone with half a brain would recognize your dilemma and
give you a wide berth. What you didn't count on was teenagers, who in
fact don't have half a brain. What ensued you haven't shared, but
clearly you survived.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the ColRegs or common sense.
Its about you having a stressful moment at the hands of witless kids,
that's all. We've all been there. In spite of all your claims, I
said nothing that could be construed as meaning you should have run up
on the rocks.

FWIW, most of the truly interesting ColRegs questions do revert to
common sense, that's what Rule 2 is all about. Its just that before
reverting to Rule 2 it's appropriate to consider the more specific rules.

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:23:54 -0500, Jeff wrote:

Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:08:39 -0500, Jeff wrote:

a half mile of stuff snipped

You win Jeff, if that's what you want.

No Frank, its not about winning, its about setting the record
straight. I was thinking about this in a Chinese Food/Chocolate
induced stupor in the middle of the night and it became clear what
happened to you: Your engine died and you had to come into the marina
under sail, maybe singlehanded, clearly a stressful situation. You
assumed that anyone with half a brain would recognize your dilemma and
give you a wide berth. What you didn't count on was teenagers, who in
fact don't have half a brain. What ensued you haven't shared, but
clearly you survived.

This part I'll answer since you seem to be interested in the outcome.
As I approached the rock breakwater on a port tack at the most narrow
point in the channel with a critical need to tack over and the
Sunfish (two) approached me yelling starboard on a run I gave them a
signal, hand and verbal, that you will not find in Chapman's, ColRegs
or any other text. It was a clear indication of what might happen to
them if they didn't clear the area. I then tacked over, and, low and
behold, they they got out of the way.

It's a city owned harbor. Had the harbor master caught them they
would have been cited and fined. Had the Junior sailing instructor at
the GYC seen them they would have been suspended from the program had
they been in it.


This has absolutely nothing to do with the ColRegs or common sense.
Its about you having a stressful moment at the hands of witless kids,
that's all. We've all been there. In spite of all your claims, I
said nothing that could be construed as meaning you should have run up
on the rocks.

This part I won't answer in deference not going there again.

FWIW, most of the truly interesting ColRegs questions do revert to
common sense, that's what Rule 2 is all about. Its just that before
reverting to Rule 2 it's appropriate to consider the more specific rules.

Frank Boettcher wrote:
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What ensued you haven't shared, but
clearly you survived.

This part I'll answer since you seem to be interested in the outcome.
As I approached the rock breakwater on a port tack at the most narrow
point in the channel with a critical need to tack over and the
Sunfish (two) approached me yelling starboard on a run I gave them a
signal, hand and verbal, that you will not find in Chapman's, ColRegs
or any other text. It was a clear indication of what might happen to
them if they didn't clear the area. I then tacked over, and, low and
behold, they they got out of the way.

So you did exactly what the rules say: you informed them that they
needed to give you some room, and they complied. The fact that your
signals were not standard is not really an issue.


It's a city owned harbor. Had the harbor master caught them they
would have been cited and fined. Had the Junior sailing instructor at
the GYC seen them they would have been suspended from the program had
they been in it.

Ah! They were violating local law and their club rules. So again,
this was not really a ColRegs issue.

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:55:23 GMT, "Maxprop"
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"katy" wrote in message
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Yeah, I have...Evansville and used to go to Lake
Carlyle....sorry...Indiana is really a boring state....IMO....

EVANSVILLE??? How unfortunate of you to have picked the armpit of the
state. It's not particularly pretty there, but between Indianapolis and
halfway to the IN/KY border is some of the most attractive country in the
Midwest. Limestone hills and cliffs, hardwoods, lakes, rivers, a natural
paradise. It's more beautiful than the hilly region of northern Michigan,
IMO. And you missed it.

Max

And just a hop, skip and a jump from Kentucky Lake and Lake Barkley,
which are very nice.

. . . especially if you happen to own one of those 80' long houseboats that
are so prolific there.

Max

"katy" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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No I didn't...we drove that this summer when we went to Mammoth...bumper
to bumper traffic all the way from Indy to Louisville...

Good heavens, you were on I-65. There is nothing--absolutely nothing--of
aesthetic value along that stretch of highway.

was horrendous...and the smog was terrific....

Smog? We have haze, but no smog. I'm not aware of any open countryside
that does.

was glad when we got over the border past Louisville (another stinking
city...can't imagine how the horses breathe to race)

Louisville--another armpit. You bypassed all the beauty of the state. Try
I-37 (Harding St. exit off 465 South) south to Bedford sometime. Bring your
camera.

Max