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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalno.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalrt.htm a.. From 1993 through 1997, less than 1% of serious nonfatal violent victimizations resulted in gunshot wounds. a.. The number of gunshot wounds from assaults treated in hospital emergency departments fell from 64,100 in 1993 to 39,400 in 1997, a 39% decline. a.. a.. a.. a.. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/guncrime.htm a.. Poverty is increasing! The globe is warming! Gun crime is the worst in history! The schools are so bad! We are losing in Iraq! Worst economy in decades! All Liberal Hogwash!!!! |
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Bob Crantz wrote:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalno.htm http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalrt.htm a.. From 1993 through 1997, less than 1% of serious nonfatal violent victimizations resulted in gunshot wounds. a.. The number of gunshot wounds from assaults treated in hospital emergency departments fell from 64,100 in 1993 to 39,400 in 1997, a 39% decline. a.. a.. a.. a.. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/guncrime.htm a.. Poverty is increasing! The globe is warming! Gun crime is the worst in history! The schools are so bad! We are losing in Iraq! Worst economy in decades! All Liberal Hogwash!!!! John Stoessal did one of his Myth buster things on 20/20 Friday night regarding gun regulation....concensus by all studies showed that states that allow private carry had the least amouint of gun crime...they interviewed a couiple of ciminals in prison..said that they would npot knowingly enter a house where they knew there were guns...The usual liberal cant is that if you say it long enough and loud enough it might come true...Funny how no one in the liberal sector comments oj findings like Stoessel's.... |
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"katy" wrote in message
... Bob Crantz wrote: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalno.htm http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalrt.htm a.. From 1993 through 1997, less than 1% of serious nonfatal violent victimizations resulted in gunshot wounds. a.. The number of gunshot wounds from assaults treated in hospital emergency departments fell from 64,100 in 1993 to 39,400 in 1997, a 39% decline. a.. a.. a.. a.. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/guncrime.htm a.. Poverty is increasing! The globe is warming! Gun crime is the worst in history! The schools are so bad! We are losing in Iraq! Worst economy in decades! All Liberal Hogwash!!!! John Stoessal did one of his Myth buster things on 20/20 Friday night regarding gun regulation....concensus by all studies showed that states that allow private carry had the least amouint of gun crime...they interviewed a couiple of ciminals in prison..said that they would npot knowingly enter a house where they knew there were guns...The usual liberal cant is that if you say it long enough and loud enough it might come true...Funny how no one in the liberal sector comments oj findings like Stoessel's.... Oops.... http://archive.salon.com/media/featu...02/25/stossel/ -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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* katy wrote, On 5/7/2007 2:52 PM:
Bob Crantz wrote: John Stoessal did one of his Myth buster things on 20/20 Friday night regarding gun regulation.... Wherein he provided absolutely no evidence for his claims concensus by all studies showed that states that allow private carry had the least amouint of gun crime... ???? The consensus is that these claims are meaningless and often false. In particular, the John Lott claims have been totally discredited. Here's a perfect example. It's a pro-gun site that didn't like the bogus math of the NRA report. It shows, for better or worse, that the states with a "right to carry" have a 15% higher murder rate than the "May Issue" states: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_rtcstates.html they interviewed a couiple of ciminals in prison..said that they would npot knowingly enter a house where they knew there were guns... Now there's a real reliable source. The usual liberal cant is that if you say it long enough and loud enough it might come true... That's why the NRA studies are often exposed as frauds. How about John Lott's famous survey where the computer "ate the data" and he was never able to produce a single person who either worked on it or answered it. Funny how no one in the liberal sector comments oj findings like Stoessel's.... Did he find anything? |
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![]() "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 May 2007 14:52:02 -0400, katy wrote: Bob Crantz wrote: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalno.htm http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...nonfatalrt.htm a.. From 1993 through 1997, less than 1% of serious nonfatal violent victimizations resulted in gunshot wounds. a.. The number of gunshot wounds from assaults treated in hospital emergency departments fell from 64,100 in 1993 to 39,400 in 1997, a 39% decline. a.. a.. a.. a.. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/guncrime.htm a.. Poverty is increasing! The globe is warming! Gun crime is the worst in history! The schools are so bad! We are losing in Iraq! Worst economy in decades! All Liberal Hogwash!!!! John Stoessal did one of his Myth buster things on 20/20 Friday night regarding gun regulation....concensus by all studies showed that states that allow private carry had the least amouint of gun crime...they interviewed a couiple of ciminals in prison..said that they would npot knowingly enter a house where they knew there were guns...The usual liberal cant is that if you say it long enough and loud enough it might come true...Funny how no one in the liberal sector comments oj findings like Stoessel's.... John Stossell? Now THERE is a trusted source! Compared with you he's The Voice of Truth. Max |
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... On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:24:55 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: come true...Funny how no one in the liberal sector comments oj findings like Stoessel's.... Oops.... http://archive.salon.com/media/featu...02/25/stossel/ Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:41:05 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised? There's nothing "deal with" as far as the message goes, because of the source. Why am I not surprised you don't get that. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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* Nathan Branden wrote, On 5/8/2007 11:15 AM:
This hilarious exchange occured before my eyes: Capt JG: " Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge." Dave: "IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised?" Capt JG: "There's nothing "deal with" as far as the message goes, because of the source. Why am I not surprised you don't get that." It appears Dave gets it quite well. It was just too funny to let this one slip by. My Corps,Your Corps, Our Corps, Marine Corps! Semper Fi! Semper Fi! Do or die! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Nonsense. It might have been different if Stoessel had actually provided some evidence for his claims, but he didn't. A few anecdotes such as an old lady who showed a shotgun and scared off an alleged intruder is meaningless. Using Washington, DC as an example of anything is meaningless as it's a subway ride from VA which until recently was the "easy buy" capital of the East Coast. So what's wrong wrong with pointing out that a heavily biased commentator is simply spewing more of his unsupported silliness? |
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* Nathan Branden wrote, On 5/8/2007 11:15 AM: This hilarious exchange occured before my eyes: Capt JG: " Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge." Dave: "IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised?" Capt JG: "There's nothing "deal with" as far as the message goes, because of the source. Why am I not surprised you don't get that." It appears Dave gets it quite well. It was just too funny to let this one slip by. My Corps,Your Corps, Our Corps, Marine Corps! Semper Fi! Semper Fi! Do or die! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Nonsense. It might have been different if Stoessel had actually provided some evidence for his claims, but he didn't. A few anecdotes such as an old lady who showed a shotgun and scared off an alleged intruder is meaningless. Using Washington, DC as an example of anything is meaningless as it's a subway ride from VA which until recently was the "easy buy" capital of the East Coast. So what's wrong wrong with pointing out that a heavily biased commentator is simply spewing more of his unsupported silliness? The supporting documentation is in his book...that was specidfied at the beginning of the program.... |
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"Nathan Branden" wrote in message
... This hilarious exchange occured before my eyes: Capt JG: " Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge." Dave: "IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised?" Capt JG: "There's nothing "deal with" as far as the message goes, because of the source. Why am I not surprised you don't get that." It appears Dave gets it quite well. It was just too funny to let this one slip by. My Corps,Your Corps, Our Corps, Marine Corps! Semper Fi! Semper Fi! Do or die! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Gung Ho! Nathan Brandon It's not funny that you pretend to be a Marine, when you're not. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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