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NEILAT 888 December 28th 04 08:57 PM

restoring wooden sailboat
 
I am trying to restore a wooden gaff-rigged sloop. It is an 18ft. day sailer
with a shallow draft, relatively flat bottomed planing hull and a large fin
keel, built in Holland in 1962. First I'd like to know if anyone recognizes the
description and can tell me something about the design or history of the class.


Second, the boat has probably been out of the water for three to five years (I
got it at an estate sale). The hull is 3-4inch strip planking of an unkown
wood. There are visible separations where you can see light between some of the
planks (from hairline to an eighth of an inch.) Does anyone know what I need
to do to make this boat seaworthy. Do I caulk first and then launch it or do I
do the reverse and see if any of the separations close up when the wood swells
and then caulk the remaining ones. Also, what is the best caulking material?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil

Remco December 28th 04 10:44 PM

I wonder if this is what is referred to as a "Spanker" class?

Perhaps do a search on www.ilse.nl (dutch search engine). Use the key
words "Zeilen spanker klasse" and see what it coughs up is similar to
what you have.
My brother has built one recently and races it:
http://www.weidema.com/theus/ -- click on "photo galerij" to get an
idea.
It that's it, I'd be happy to translate whatever page you need to read.

If it is a spanker, It can be a very cool little boat to sail -
congratulations on your find!

Remco


Remco December 28th 04 10:52 PM

Here's another site describing the class: http://www.spanker.nl/


Remco December 28th 04 11:06 PM

Here's another site describing the class: http://www.spanker.nl/


[email protected] December 29th 04 11:32 AM

Neal,

You might search / ask the forums at www.woodenboat.com, there I am sure you
will find input planks. Lots of knowledgeable people who care about wood
boats. And you might also find someone with info on your boat.

-al-


On 28 Dec 2004 20:57:01 GMT, (NEILAT 888) wrote:

I am trying to restore a wooden gaff-rigged sloop. It is an 18ft. day sailer
with a shallow draft, relatively flat bottomed planing hull and a large fin
keel, built in Holland in 1962. First I'd like to know if anyone recognizes the
description and can tell me something about the design or history of the class.


Second, the boat has probably been out of the water for three to five years (I
got it at an estate sale). The hull is 3-4inch strip planking of an unkown
wood. There are visible separations where you can see light between some of the
planks (from hairline to an eighth of an inch.) Does anyone know what I need
to do to make this boat seaworthy. Do I caulk first and then launch it or do I
do the reverse and see if any of the separations close up when the wood swells
and then caulk the remaining ones. Also, what is the best caulking material?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil



Tom December 29th 04 04:51 PM

On 28 Dec 2004 20:57:01 GMT, (NEILAT 888)
wrote:

In the 50's we had a cedar strip built outboard boat. Most were made
that way in those days. In the spring, we just filled the boat with
water and let it swell up tight. You would be surprised how much it
would take up. Sometimes, we would just put it in the lake. It would
take water like crazy, but after a day, after pumping out the water it
would be as tight as a drum.

Tom

I am trying to restore a wooden gaff-rigged sloop. It is an 18ft. day sailer
with a shallow draft, relatively flat bottomed planing hull and a large fin
keel, built in Holland in 1962. First I'd like to know if anyone recognizes the
description and can tell me something about the design or history of the class.


Second, the boat has probably been out of the water for three to five years (I
got it at an estate sale). The hull is 3-4inch strip planking of an unkown
wood. There are visible separations where you can see light between some of the
planks (from hairline to an eighth of an inch.) Does anyone know what I need
to do to make this boat seaworthy. Do I caulk first and then launch it or do I
do the reverse and see if any of the separations close up when the wood swells
and then caulk the remaining ones. Also, what is the best caulking material?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Neil



NEILAT 888 December 30th 04 10:31 PM

dear remco,

Thanks for the tip. I did visit the pages and, while the boats are very similar
in appearance, none of the the Spankers pictured had gaff rigs and the spec
page showed a more "blade-like" fin keel than mine has. Mine is swept back,
polygonal with an airfoil leading edge and a small bulb along the bottom.

Also.most of the boats pictured are trapeze rigged, I haven't found any
evidence of that in the tangle of rigging I've got.

Anyway, I look more deeply into this since the class was started in the early
sixties and the similraities are strong.

thanks again

jimk January 4th 05 10:17 PM


"NEILAT 888" wrote in message
...
Second, the boat has probably been out of the water for three to five

years (I
got it at an estate sale). The hull is 3-4inch strip planking of an unkown
wood. There are visible separations where you can see light between some

of the
planks (from hairline to an eighth of an inch.)


Doesn't sound that bad under the cirmstances.

Does anyone know what I need
to do to make this boat seaworthy. Do I caulk first and then launch it or

do I

If you caulk first, when the planks swell up, they can be damaged.

do the reverse and see if any of the separations close up when the wood

swells
and then caulk the remaining ones.


Caulking may not be required at all. It may just swell up enough on it's
own.

You can wet it with a sprinkler for a few days ahead of time to jump start
the process...

Jim



NEILAT 888 January 5th 05 05:33 PM

Thanks. Sounds likje a good first step.


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