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Lots of rain in California this winter. I have very few leaks compared
to most, but I'm continually fixing little deck leaks. I have come to the realization that I should remove the teak decks on my fiberglass trawler. Good solid molded fiberglass decks underneath the teak. The teak is good shape, but I do not want to chase all the little leaks for the rest of my life. Anyone remove these things? I've only seen one removal. They took a big scraper and scraped and pried it off. I'm thinking of removing the 2000+ screws, one at a time. Anyone removed their teak decks? Jim |
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![]() "Jim" wrote in message nk.net... Lots of rain in California this winter. I have very few leaks compared to most, but I'm continually fixing little deck leaks. I have come to the realization that I should remove the teak decks on my fiberglass trawler. Good solid molded fiberglass decks underneath the teak. The teak is good shape, but I do not want to chase all the little leaks for the rest of my life. Anyone remove these things? I've only seen one removal. They took a big scraper and scraped and pried it off. I'm thinking of removing the 2000+ screws, one at a time. Anyone removed their teak decks? Jim Have you considered glueing a new teak deck (3/16" thick strips) on top of the old one ? ...Ken |
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![]() .....Ken wrote: Have you considered glueing a new teak deck (3/16" thick strips) on top of the old one ? My decks are in pretty good shape. The teak is plenty thick and there are no problems, except for the 2000+ screw holes in the deck. Over the years some screws have worked loose. When the deck is flooded some water finds its way below the wood and into the screw holes. I have fiberglass decks with a plywood core, typical construction. Fortunately the wood core is all teak, so rot may not be a problem. The water soaks the wood and washes out the glue, then eventually finds it's way through the inside layer of glass and leaks coffee colored water. Cold wood tea. I've been draining these voids, finding the wet screw and injecting epoxy into the screw hole, then redrilling and putting the old screw back. Every screw in the deck is 7/8, so no long ones have been added. I figure that I'm in for a lifetime of fixing little leaks unless those 2000+ screws go away. When it stops raining maybe I'll change my mind. |
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![]() I too have been removing the screws and injecting West System. But I do not re-drill since I believe this can expose the wood again. Once the holes stop soaking in the epoxy I re-screw them before it sets up. Careful taping and clean up are important to not turning this into a disaster. But it does allow me to do as much as I want at a time. So far all the leaks have stopped and no new ones have appeared. Eventually the entire area will be done. BTW, this is only the cockpit area. The rest of the decks are fiberglass. Another method would be to epoxy the teak to the deck with screws and fender washer ON TOP of the teak. Then fill the holes after the epoxy has set and the screws are removed permanently. |
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Jim,
I am working with teak decks, but this is not by any means to promote my business, just give some ideas to solve your problem. Teak decks typically leak from two reasons, 1. teak plugs/ screw holes or 2. caulk between teak failed. If you hose your deck and look when it is drying you can see problem spots as they will remain wet way longer than surrounding areas, example if teak next to seam stays wet longer than other areas, seam failed and water gets in. If plugs over screws are loose they usually have black mildew ring around. Now you say subdeck is plywood, and I am sorry to inform you that it will rot, for sure over the time. I have never seen teak plywood with all teak wood plyes in it and even it would be all teak ply, it will delaminate over the time if it stays wet. So whatever you do it is best to do sooner than later. If you know that your problem is caused by screws/plugs and your deck is otherwise in good shape, you should not need to remove teak, but simply remove all teak plugs ( best tool for this is cutter by www.hougen.com/cutters/sheetmetal/Rotacut.html ) and countersink holes little deeper, replace all screws and dip new screw to teak deck caulk to seal hole around screw and re-plug every screw hole. If plug is properly glued in with epoxy water will not get in and the leak is eliminated for many years. If your seams are bad you have much more work to save your deck because bad seams need to come out and teak edges have to be cleaned to bare teak and then re-caulked. Re-caulking is very difficult to do and makes sence only if you really have lot of teak left. Good luck for your project Best Regards, J.T. www.TeakDeckCompany.com Custom Teak Decks and Ready to install Teak Deck Panels for Boat Owners, Builders and Professional Installers "Jim" wrote in message nk.net... ....Ken wrote: Have you considered glueing a new teak deck (3/16" thick strips) on top of the old one ? My decks are in pretty good shape. The teak is plenty thick and there are no problems, except for the 2000+ screw holes in the deck. Over the years some screws have worked loose. When the deck is flooded some water finds its way below the wood and into the screw holes. I have fiberglass decks with a plywood core, typical construction. Fortunately the wood core is all teak, so rot may not be a problem. The water soaks the wood and washes out the glue, then eventually finds it's way through the inside layer of glass and leaks coffee colored water. Cold wood tea. I've been draining these voids, finding the wet screw and injecting epoxy into the screw hole, then redrilling and putting the old screw back. Every screw in the deck is 7/8, so no long ones have been added. I figure that I'm in for a lifetime of fixing little leaks unless those 2000+ screws go away. When it stops raining maybe I'll change my mind. |
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![]() J.T. Tuomela wrote: Snip........ My decks dry evenly, no wet plugs. This has been exactly the winter I wanted. Heavy rain then a period of dry to fix leaks, then more heavy rain. All leaks fixed, and then a long period of very heavy rain. No leaks anywhere. Finally. But I will still be removing the teak decks. |
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I don't see why but...
run skillsaw across teak strips about 2" apart and chisell off teak pieces. For big decks you can use air tool from Home Depot to chisel teak from subdeck. Teak will pop out pretty easy. Then just find out to re-finish your deck with paint/gelcoat. Best Regards, J.T. www.TeakDeckCompany.com Custom Teak Decks and Ready to install Teak Deck Panels for Boat Owners, Builders and Professional Installers "Jim" wrote in message ink.net... J.T. Tuomela wrote: Snip........ My decks dry evenly, no wet plugs. This has been exactly the winter I wanted. Heavy rain then a period of dry to fix leaks, then more heavy rain. All leaks fixed, and then a long period of very heavy rain. No leaks anywhere. Finally. But I will still be removing the teak decks. |
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![]() J.T. Tuomela wrote: I don't see why but... Why is because I don't want to spend the rest of my life finding leaks. I don't mind the varnish, but I hate to sleep in a wet bunk. |
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