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Hello -
I'm looking for the ingredients and ratios to make polyester putty. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? email is rbaulbin at yahoo.com Thanks! Jordan |
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Jordan wrote:
Hello - I'm looking for the ingredients and ratios to make polyester putty. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? email is rbaulbin at yahoo.com Thanks! Jordan Make up your own. I assume we're talking body filler, right? If it's horizontal, I use mostly microballons or glass beads. It runs pretty good and will self level fairly well. On vertical, add a good bit of silica to the above until it doesn't drip off the stirring stick. Most of us use epoxy instead of polyester. It works about the same which ever you use. I don't measure filler. Use enough microballons to make it thick and creamy. Add silica until doesn't drip off the stick. Donald -- I'm building a Steel Robert's 434. You can sneak a peek if you wish by clicking on me link below. http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/o/donrayp/ 'USA, Home of the best politicians money can buy' |
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I've mixed resin and filler to the consistency I want and then mixed in
the right amount of catalyst for the amount of resin I used. The filler is some grey powder sold as polyester filler. I can't get a smooth surface with this filler. You have to get it as even as you can or its quite a job to sand it smooth, especially if working in corners. A plastic cover might help. Jordan ) writes: Hello - I'm looking for the ingredients and ratios to make polyester putty. Can anyone steer me in the right direction? email is rbaulbin at yahoo.com Thanks! Jordan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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Very rough proportions I have used were 1/3 (volume) each, cabosil,
microballons, resin. Mixed the cablsil and ballons about 50/50 the added the resin. Usually I made about .5 guart-.75 quart mixed voluume and catalatzed it at about 7-10 cc per batch. Mostly this was used for joint radius compound. I bought ALL fairing compound premixed. BTW I put the joint radius compound in quart ziplock bags with usually a 1/2" or 3/4" pvc pipe nozzle to apply like a caulking gun. It did a good job and saved a lot of time. -- Ron White My boatbuilding website is: www.concentric.net/~knotreel |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:25 -0500, Donald Phillips
wrote: Make up your own. I assume we're talking body filler, right? If it's horizontal, I use mostly microballons or glass beads. It runs pretty good and will self level fairly well. On vertical, add a good bit of silica to the above until it doesn't drip off the stirring stick. Most of us use epoxy instead of polyester. It works about the same which ever you use. I don't measure filler. Use enough microballons to make it thick and creamy. Add silica until doesn't drip off the stick. Donald These are good instructions. Just to specify, you want it about as thick as peanut butter. Only use as much cabosil (silica) as necessary, though, because it's a ***** to sand. -m |
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Actually, if you mix microballoons into it until it looks very nearly thick
enough (soft peanut butter), then you'll find that only a little silica will keep it from sagging. Estimating from my own work, I'd say about 85% phenolic microballoons plus about 15% silica, by volume. Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "sour (max camirand)" wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:25 -0500, Donald Phillips wrote: Make up your own. I assume we're talking body filler, right? If it's horizontal, I use mostly microballons or glass beads. It runs pretty good and will self level fairly well. On vertical, add a good bit of silica to the above until it doesn't drip off the stirring stick. Most of us use epoxy instead of polyester. It works about the same which ever you use. I don't measure filler. Use enough microballons to make it thick and creamy. Add silica until doesn't drip off the stick. Donald These are good instructions. Just to specify, you want it about as thick as peanut butter. Only use as much cabosil (silica) as necessary, though, because it's a ***** to sand. -m |
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:33 GMT, "Brian D"
wrote: Actually, if you mix microballoons into it until it looks very nearly thick enough (soft peanut butter), then you'll find that only a little silica will keep it from sagging. Estimating from my own work, I'd say about 85% phenolic microballoons plus about 15% silica, by volume. Brian Exactly. Don't go mixing it with 100% silica just because it's vertical. I've seen people do it. I think they're still sanding. -m |
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But if the weather or shop is warm, or you are putting on more than just a
thin layer, mixing it a bit on the thick side is better. The epoxy can heat up after or during application and this can cause it to sag. How thick to make it is easily judged with only a little experience, like your 2nd or 3rd batch or so. Easy. Brian "sour (max camirand)" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:49:33 GMT, "Brian D" wrote: Actually, if you mix microballoons into it until it looks very nearly thick enough (soft peanut butter), then you'll find that only a little silica will keep it from sagging. Estimating from my own work, I'd say about 85% phenolic microballoons plus about 15% silica, by volume. Brian Exactly. Don't go mixing it with 100% silica just because it's vertical. I've seen people do it. I think they're still sanding. -m |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:25 -0500, Donald Phillips
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: So Silica gives a different slime result from mballoons? Serious. I have used various fillers (not silica, because of sanding). They give "thick" but not thixotropic. How is silica different from a simple filler? "International" epoxies are thixotropic. Run when you touch them. Hang in globs until youm do. It's a gel. Make up your own. I assume we're talking body filler, right? If it's horizontal, I use mostly microballons or glass beads. It runs pretty good and will self level fairly well. On vertical, add a good bit of silica to the above until it doesn't drip off the stirring stick. Most of us use epoxy instead of polyester. It works about the same which ever you use. I don't measure filler. Use enough microballons to make it thick and creamy. Add silica until doesn't drip off the stick. ************************************************** **************************************** Whenever you have to prove to yourself that you are not something, you probably are. Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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Yes, adding silica miraculously changes a droopy glop into a glop that stays
put. Doesn't require too much either. The amount you add doesn't affect the ability to sand at all ...can't tell it's there when you are sanding. Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "Old Nick" wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:49:25 -0500, Donald Phillips wrote something ......and in reply I say!: So Silica gives a different slime result from mballoons? Serious. I have used various fillers (not silica, because of sanding). They give "thick" but not thixotropic. How is silica different from a simple filler? "International" epoxies are thixotropic. Run when you touch them. Hang in globs until youm do. It's a gel. Make up your own. I assume we're talking body filler, right? If it's horizontal, I use mostly microballons or glass beads. It runs pretty good and will self level fairly well. On vertical, add a good bit of silica to the above until it doesn't drip off the stirring stick. Most of us use epoxy instead of polyester. It works about the same which ever you use. I don't measure filler. Use enough microballons to make it thick and creamy. Add silica until doesn't drip off the stick. ************************************************** ************************** ************** Whenever you have to prove to yourself that you are not something, you probably are. Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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