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Bill McKee wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.



Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.

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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message
oups.com...
You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.


Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.

Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.



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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

DSK


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

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In article ,
DSK wrote:
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

Come on Doug, be fair. Some sailboats have wheels.


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In article ,
Don White wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.


If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.

Don, please don't ruin golf for us....


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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.



Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.
If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.

Another "sailor". It is also up to the sailboat to avoid a collision. I
have heard "sailors" declare they have the right of way over a tanker
entering the Golden Gate. There is no right of way, and the tanker has
preference, and if they collide, the sailor's estate may have to pay to fix
the scratches in the paint of the tankers hull.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

DSK


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

What's your point? If you know the Rules of the Road, there's never
much doubt about who should give way.



--
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In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.

Another "sailor". It is also up to the sailboat to avoid a collision. I
have heard "sailors" declare they have the right of way over a tanker
entering the Golden Gate. There is no right of way, and the tanker has
preference, and if they collide, the sailor's estate may have to pay to fix
the scratches in the paint of the tankers hull.

Yep. Except you can leave off the quotes. It's up to everyone to avoid
a collision. Still, you've not made any point here. There are always
stupid people or people who don't know the rules of the road. The
tanker in the bay have stand on status. Other vessels must give
way. Don't worry, if you try to claim stand on status with a tanker,
they'll let you know their preference.

BTW, you usually wouldn't be t-boned by the tanker. Probably the bow
wake would push you aside, then flip the boat around, then you'd smash
into the side of the hull, shattering your boat like an egg. A few
seconds later, the prop would finish the job.



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message
roups.com...
You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.


Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then yell
at a power boat for impeding you.

Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



I suggest you read the Colregs yourself, and get back to us as to when a
sailboat can turn and go in front of any other non sailboat when ever they
desire. Danger be danged.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

Probably like a lot of motorboaters, you have no clue what's involved in
sailing, and think that all boats can be driven like a car.

DSK


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of
way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of
me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell
at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

What's your point? If you know the Rules of the Road, there's never
much doubt about who should give way.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



You better read the Colregs. A sailboat with the motor running, is a power
boat. And all boats are to avoid collisions. The sailboat has to keep
going in a passing situation. They can not turn when they desire. I guess
you figure you get to make the big tanker going up / down the channel to
turn to avoid you.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"ladysailor" wrote in message
ups.com...

You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.

Another "sailor". It is also up to the sailboat to avoid a collision. I
have heard "sailors" declare they have the right of way over a tanker
entering the Golden Gate. There is no right of way, and the tanker has
preference, and if they collide, the sailor's estate may have to pay to
fix
the scratches in the paint of the tankers hull.

Yep. Except you can leave off the quotes. It's up to everyone to avoid
a collision. Still, you've not made any point here. There are always
stupid people or people who don't know the rules of the road. The
tanker in the bay have stand on status. Other vessels must give
way. Don't worry, if you try to claim stand on status with a tanker,
they'll let you know their preference.

BTW, you usually wouldn't be t-boned by the tanker. Probably the bow
wake would push you aside, then flip the boat around, then you'd smash
into the side of the hull, shattering your boat like an egg. A few
seconds later, the prop would finish the job.



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I see you do not know what happens when the tanker T bones you. And if your
sailboat is of any size, you will get Teed. And what about your sailboat
with sails up and motor running?

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
I see you do not know what happens when the tanker T bones you. And if your
sailboat is of any size, you will get Teed. And what about your sailboat
with sails up and motor running?

Well, having never actually experienced it, I can only go by what a
local CG offical told us at a seminar. I'm sure he could be wrong.

What about it? It's in the regs. Is the engine engaged or just
running? Are you talking about the propulsion system or the genset?
What about electric engines that are engaged and running but only
regenerating the batteries?

Do you know how you're supposed to tell other boats what you're doing
when your engine is engaged and your sails are up after dark? How
about during the day?



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
I suggest you read the Colregs yourself, and get back to us as to when a
sailboat can turn and go in front of any other non sailboat when ever they
desire. Danger be danged.

Bill, sounds like you're unsure who is stand on vessel in the case you
describe; otherwise, you would know that a sailboat can not turn in
front of any other boat (sail or power) and have stand-on status.

What do you mean by danger be danged? Does this mean you would run
your boat up on the rocks or turn in front of another boat as a last
resort? Why did you get in that spot to begin with?

Please tell us.



--
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www.sailnow.com

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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
You better read the Colregs. A sailboat with the motor running, is a power
boat. And all boats are to avoid collisions. The sailboat has to keep
going in a passing situation. They can not turn when they desire. I guess
you figure you get to make the big tanker going up / down the channel to
turn to avoid you.

Yeah, so? What's your point? I know the regs and clearly you can quote
them. What are you trying to tell us here?



--
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www.sailnow.com

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Bill McKee wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Bill McKee wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message
groups.com...


You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.



Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.


Another "sailor". It is also up to the sailboat to avoid a collision. I
have heard "sailors" declare they have the right of way over a tanker
entering the Golden Gate. There is no right of way, and the tanker has
preference, and if they collide, the sailor's estate may have to pay to fix
the scratches in the paint of the tankers hull.


Not all sailors are familiar enough with the collision regulations either.
In your case, sounds like you were overtaking him. You are the 'giveway
boat'. That said, he has a responsibility to give you ample time to
avoid a collision.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message news:fkaaf.4109 I
know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of
way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of
me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell
at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

Bill, if "you" collided with them, "you" would be at fault. It is your
responsibility, under Rule 8, the collision regulations, to avoid a
collision.
Jim

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Jim

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In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

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www.sailnow.com

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OK....Sorry...... ;-)

Jim

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In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

Actually, here's what I was talking about....

http://www.sailingusa.info/rules_of_...lesofroad.html


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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
You better read the Colregs. A sailboat with the motor running, is a
power
boat. And all boats are to avoid collisions. The sailboat has to keep
going in a passing situation. They can not turn when they desire. I
guess
you figure you get to make the big tanker going up / down the channel to
turn to avoid you.

Yeah, so? What's your point? I know the regs and clearly you can quote
them. What are you trying to tell us here?



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



That you are an idiot.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
I see you do not know what happens when the tanker T bones you. And if
your
sailboat is of any size, you will get Teed. And what about your sailboat
with sails up and motor running?

Well, having never actually experienced it, I can only go by what a
local CG offical told us at a seminar. I'm sure he could be wrong.

What about it? It's in the regs. Is the engine engaged or just
running? Are you talking about the propulsion system or the genset?
What about electric engines that are engaged and running but only
regenerating the batteries?

Do you know how you're supposed to tell other boats what you're doing
when your engine is engaged and your sails are up after dark? How
about during the day?



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



If your gas engine is running, you are a power boat! If you are in neutral,
engine running, you are a power boat, if your sails are up and your motor is
running, you are a powerboat.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Yeah, so? What's your point? I know the regs and clearly you can quote
them. What are you trying to tell us here?

That you are an idiot.

Ah, a name caller. Well, ok then. You sure won that argument on the
merits.




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
What about it? It's in the regs. Is the engine engaged or just
running? Are you talking about the propulsion system or the genset?
What about electric engines that are engaged and running but only
regenerating the batteries?

Do you know how you're supposed to tell other boats what you're doing
when your engine is engaged and your sails are up after dark? How
about during the day?



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



If your gas engine is running, you are a power boat! If you are in neutral,
engine running, you are a power boat, if your sails are up and your motor is
running, you are a powerboat.

What about the other questions.... come on, show us you know the regs.




--
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www.sailnow.com

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
I suggest you read the Colregs yourself, and get back to us as to when a
sailboat can turn and go in front of any other non sailboat when ever they
desire. Danger be danged.

Bill, sounds like you're unsure who is stand on vessel in the case you
describe; otherwise, you would know that a sailboat can not turn in
front of any other boat (sail or power) and have stand-on status.

What do you mean by danger be danged? Does this mean you would run
your boat up on the rocks or turn in front of another boat as a last
resort? Why did you get in that spot to begin with?

Please tell us.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



I see you can not comprehend what you read either. The sailboat as it says
in the posting turns in front of the non sailboat. Who is the stand on
vessel? Your opinion, with substantiation is required. You are the one in
the sailboat. You going to run up on the rocks or turn in front of the 40'
fishing boat?

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Bill McKee wrote:

"ladysailor" wrote in message
egroups.com...


You're right, I take off my hat and gloves when I'm being harassed by
obnoxious morons and turn straight away into a ****ed off sailor.



Probably like a lot if sailors, you turn when ever you want, and then
yell at a power boat for impeding you.

If you don't like the collision regulations, sell that stinkpot and take
up golf.


Another "sailor". It is also up to the sailboat to avoid a collision. I
have heard "sailors" declare they have the right of way over a tanker
entering the Golden Gate. There is no right of way, and the tanker has
preference, and if they collide, the sailor's estate may have to pay to
fix the scratches in the paint of the tankers hull.
Not all sailors are familiar enough with the collision regulations either.
In your case, sounds like you were overtaking him. You are the 'giveway
boat'. That said, he has a responsibility to give you ample time to avoid
a collision.

He has to avoid the tanker in the channel. If he causes the tanker to run
aground or hit a bridge piling to avoid the collision, the sailboat is going
to be liable for all damages. The tanker, the bridge, all the damage.

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message news:fkaaf.4109
I
know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the right of
way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree in front of
me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and then yell
at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and when they
had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.

Bill, if "you" collided with them, "you" would be at fault. It is your
responsibility, under Rule 8, the collision regulations, to avoid a
collision.
Jim



Not when he is 15' from me and makes a 90 degree turn in front of a boat
moving 25 miles per hour. His responsibility requires him to avoid the
collision and has to keep in a continous direction when being overtaken.

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

Actually, here's what I was talking about....

http://www.sailingusa.info/rules_of_...lesofroad.html


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



And that has what legal validity?

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In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I see you can not comprehend what you read either. The sailboat as it says
in the posting turns in front of the non sailboat. Who is the stand on
vessel? Your opinion, with substantiation is required. You are the one in
the sailboat. You going to run up on the rocks or turn in front of the 40'
fishing boat?

I would say the sailboat, since your fishing boat would collide with
it, not the other way around. However, both boats would be at fault.
Of course, you're assuming that I have a sailboat smaller than 40',
not that it matter much.



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In article t,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
He has to avoid the tanker in the channel. If he causes the tanker to run
aground or hit a bridge piling to avoid the collision, the sailboat is going
to be liable for all damages. The tanker, the bridge, all the damage.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not hit a bridge piling to avoid the
collision.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not be damanged.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not leave the channel.

Bill... who has stand-on status on the ocean?

Suggestion (not a hint): Stay away from tankers.

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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
Bill, if "you" collided with them, "you" would be at fault. It is your
responsibility, under Rule 8, the collision regulations, to avoid a
collision.
Jim



Not when he is 15' from me and makes a 90 degree turn in front of a boat
moving 25 miles per hour. His responsibility requires him to avoid the
collision and has to keep in a continous direction when being overtaken.

15 feet? 25 MPH? So, we're talking about 1/2 seconds? I find this hard
to believe somehow. Do you want to try for second prize?



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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

Actually, here's what I was talking about....

http://www.sailingusa.info/rules_of_...lesofroad.html


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



And that has what legal validity?

The colregs do. Did you actually go to the link? I bet you didn't.



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In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
The colregs do. Did you actually go to the link? I bet you didn't.

Well, have a great evening... I'm outta here until tomorrow
evening. Guess I'll go sailing and see if there are any jetskiers out
there who know the rules of the road.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
Bill, if "you" collided with them, "you" would be at fault. It is
your
responsibility, under Rule 8, the collision regulations, to avoid a
collision.
Jim
Not when he is 15' from me and makes a 90 degree turn in front of a boat
moving 25 miles per hour. His responsibility requires him to avoid the
collision and has to keep in a continous direction when being overtaken.

Yes Bill, You would still be at fault in this instance.

You are breaking several of the Collision Regulations. rule 5, rule 6, rule
7, and rule 8. You have disregarded all of these.
How? You were not paying attention in rule 5, and allowed yourself to get
too close to the sailboat. You were going to fast to avoid the collision
which is in contradiction of rule 6. You, most definitely broke rule 7,
(part a.) in as much as you collided with the sailboat. You broke rule 8
because you did not take action to avoid the collision.

Jim

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
What about it? It's in the regs. Is the engine engaged or just
running? Are you talking about the propulsion system or the genset?
What about electric engines that are engaged and running but only
regenerating the batteries?

Do you know how you're supposed to tell other boats what you're doing
when your engine is engaged and your sails are up after dark? How
about during the day?



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



If your gas engine is running, you are a power boat! If you are in
neutral,
engine running, you are a power boat, if your sails are up and your motor
is
running, you are a powerboat.

What about the other questions.... come on, show us you know the regs.




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Was up to you to show the regs.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Yeah, so? What's your point? I know the regs and clearly you can quote
them. What are you trying to tell us here?

That you are an idiot.

Ah, a name caller. Well, ok then. You sure won that argument on the
merits.




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No, just stating the obvious.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I see you can not comprehend what you read either. The sailboat as it
says
in the posting turns in front of the non sailboat. Who is the stand on
vessel? Your opinion, with substantiation is required. You are the one
in
the sailboat. You going to run up on the rocks or turn in front of the
40'
fishing boat?

I would say the sailboat, since your fishing boat would collide with
it, not the other way around. However, both boats would be at fault.
Of course, you're assuming that I have a sailboat smaller than 40',
not that it matter much.



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I assume you own a small, cheap sailboat. And the 40' was the fishing boat
if you go back and try to read for comprehension. And as to majority if
fault. The sailboat gets it. They did not continue in a line while being
overtaken. You better re read the Colregs.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
He has to avoid the tanker in the channel. If he causes the tanker to run
aground or hit a bridge piling to avoid the collision, the sailboat is
going
to be liable for all damages. The tanker, the bridge, all the damage.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not hit a bridge piling to avoid the
collision.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not be damanged.

Bzzzzt. The tanker will not leave the channel.

Bill... who has stand-on status on the ocean?

Suggestion (not a hint): Stay away from tankers.

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Bzzt. A tanker hit the San Raphael bridge earlier this year avoiding a
boat. The boat is and has been held liable. Look at the SFCG site, and you
will probably find the info.

Bzzt. A freighter ran aground somewhere back east avoiding a boat earlier
this year. You will have to google up that one.

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Bill, if "you" collided with them, "you" would be at fault. It is
your
responsibility, under Rule 8, the collision regulations, to avoid a
collision.
Jim
Not when he is 15' from me and makes a 90 degree turn in front of a boat
moving 25 miles per hour. His responsibility requires him to avoid the
collision and has to keep in a continous direction when being overtaken.

Yes Bill, You would still be at fault in this instance.

You are breaking several of the Collision Regulations. rule 5, rule 6,
rule
7, and rule 8. You have disregarded all of these.
How? You were not paying attention in rule 5, and allowed yourself to get
too close to the sailboat. You were going to fast to avoid the collision
which is in contradiction of rule 6. You, most definitely broke rule 7,
(part a.) in as much as you collided with the sailboat. You broke rule 8
because you did not take action to avoid the collision.

Jim



Bzzt: Sailboat made a bad move. Prove I was not paying attention, and that
an illegal direction change while being overtaken did not cause the
accident.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article et,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jim Carter wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Suggestion: Get a copy of the Colregs and the Rules of the Road,
specifically. Then, get back to us.
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Jonathan, there is no such thing as getting a copy of "the Rules of the
Road," there is ONLY the Collision Regulations.

Shhhhh.....

Actually, here's what I was talking about....

http://www.sailingusa.info/rules_of_...lesofroad.html


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And that has what legal validity?

The colregs do. Did you actually go to the link? I bet you didn't.



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And your "Rules of the Road" have legal validity. I did not go to the site.
AS YOU STATED BOTH Colregs and your "Rules of the Road" for legality. So
you "Rules of the Road" are nada as to concern. It may be a restatement or
interpretation of the Colregs, but other than that they are meaningless.