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Problem with my 1978 Sea Star 165hp Mercruiser Starting Problem
Well, I have had this problem happen to me twice now with my boat. It
is a 1978 Sea Star 165 hp I/O Mercruiser (Chevy Block?). It cranks real slow but will fire if the battery is charged up. I took it out on the lake it started up, ran it around a bit, anchored, did a little fishing, wasn't getting any hits so I decided to move onto a different spot. It would BARELY crank, no clicking, and actually the battery would allow me to run the blower and such. So, after that, I had someone tow me in. I bought a new battery (so now I have two). I took it out yesterday, same problem, I hooked up the other battery while on the lake and cranked it up and it started (BARELY). So I drove it to the launch and shut it down to pull it up on the trailer, before I put it on the trailer I thought that I would give it another shot. It BARELY cranked again and wouldn't start. Hmmmm. I have a couple of thoughts on it, but I don't want to go throwing parts at it when they are needed. Any help would be appreciated though. I am thinking one of three options he Starter, Alternator, or Voltage Regulator. I did however notice that the battery cables were EXTREMELY hot on the ground side and a little hot on the positive side. But, I did tighten them up while I was out there so it wasn't a battery cable problem. There is no corrosion on the cables whatsoever, so that shouldn't be a problem. The starter is engaging, but this is what is puzzling me. What are your thoughts? smooth |
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Problem with my 1978 Sea Star 165hp Mercruiser Starting Problem
Cables only get hot if there's voltage being dropped across them, or across
the connection. Connections need to be bright shiny metal before they're bolted up and then they need to be so mechanically secure that the connection is "gas tight;" i.e. there's no possibility of air getting in to cause oxidation, even after it's been shaken around a lot. I use a wire brush in a Dremel tool to "polish" the connecting points (other than the battery posts). For the posts, there are special wire brushes. Besides the connections you unbolt, there's also a connection, soldered or crimped, inside the cable between the conductor and the end fittings. It's also possible that enough strands have broken that you have too small a conductor. You can find the voltage drop with a meter while someone else hits the starter switch. Note that an ohm meter is not much use in finding the problem. 0.01 ohm will typically drop a volt during starting and generate 100 watts of heat. On a twelve volt system, I'd look for at least 8 volts at the starter while cranking. Make sure the whole circuit, from negative battery post, thru ground straps, cables and the engine block is a good low impedance circuit. Roger http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm "smoothz1977" wrote in message oups.com... Well, I have had this problem happen to me twice now with my boat. It is a 1978 Sea Star 165 hp I/O Mercruiser (Chevy Block?). It cranks real slow but will fire if the battery is charged up. I took it out on the lake it started up, ran it around a bit, anchored, did a little fishing, wasn't getting any hits so I decided to move onto a different spot. It would BARELY crank, no clicking, and actually the battery would allow me to run the blower and such. So, after that, I had someone tow me in. I bought a new battery (so now I have two). I took it out yesterday, same problem, I hooked up the other battery while on the lake and cranked it up and it started (BARELY). So I drove it to the launch and shut it down to pull it up on the trailer, before I put it on the trailer I thought that I would give it another shot. It BARELY cranked again and wouldn't start. Hmmmm. I have a couple of thoughts on it, but I don't want to go throwing parts at it when they are needed. Any help would be appreciated though. I am thinking one of three options he Starter, Alternator, or Voltage Regulator. I did however notice that the battery cables were EXTREMELY hot on the ground side and a little hot on the positive side. But, I did tighten them up while I was out there so it wasn't a battery cable problem. There is no corrosion on the cables whatsoever, so that shouldn't be a problem. The starter is engaging, but this is what is puzzling me. What are your thoughts? smooth |
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Problem with my 1978 Sea Star 165hp Mercruiser Starting Problem
Okay, understandable, however, do you think that the starter is pulling
too much of a load causing the heat? |
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Problem with my 1978 Sea Star 165hp Mercruiser Starting Problem
A starter is a series wound DC motor. It will pull several hundred amperes
if locked (& very little current while spinning free). That's why one has heavy cables and relays (solenoids). It's possible that you have a shorted turn, but you mentioned a hot cable, and that fix is cheap and easy. Only if the cables are very good would I pull the starter and take it to an automotive electric shop to be put on a growler. (If you do, then while it's out, get new brushes and bushings.) (It's almost never the starter.) Measure the voltage drops. I'll bet your starter has five volts or less across it while trying to crank. Roger http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm "smoothz1977" wrote in message oups.com... Okay, understandable, however, do you think that the starter is pulling too much of a load causing the heat? |
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