Hey guys and gals -

I need or widsom in my situation. I started the topic about
Ethanol..and now they are talking about those rubber-bands airplans (how
in the world can go off topic seriously).

Anyway...as most may not know, my Suzuki DT140 (1985) two stroke, oil
injected outboard motor got burnt (internally) probably lack of oil
circulation or cooling system was not working, in either case, I was
told it will cost over $1,000.00 for repair. I have requested a full
cost, but waiting for that to come in, but in the mean time:

All of you, compairing the pro and cons of repairing the motor for less
than $3,000 or go for a newer engine (avg 7k to 10k dollars). Due to
changes in our fuel situation where additives are being added to
gasoline, I worry about older model motors not being able to handle the
fuel changes versus newer engine that are design for the changes in the
fuel contents.

Should I go for new motor or stick with the old true blue regular
gasoline engine?

Gil

p.s. I've posted this question in another group..please pardon me if you
see this again in a different newsgroup.

Gil,
To go at this a little 'backwards' . . .

We're NOT talking about 'precision engineering requirements' here. The
proper oil ratio aside, 'Gas is Gas' to a 2-cycle engine. I wouldn't worry
about tetraethyl lead, Ethyl Alcohol, or 'winterizing' additives - on this
score.

However - always one, sometimes hidden in the weeds - engine EXHAUST is
another issue - entirely - for ALL 2-strokes. From a purely mathematical
'Fix or Repair' analysis, 35 percent of new cost used to be the figure. This
presumes a repair that will LAST a good ling time. Also that you are not
just putting 'Band Aids on a broken arm' - you are going to get a 'domino
effect' from the new STRONGER part putting pressure on the older, weaker
parts causing THEM to sequentially fail.

In this case, at SOME point you ARE going to have to get a 4-stroke {or
whatever has the least impact on the environment when you buy}. They have
been on the market for several years, so the first thing I would do is shop
around for a new 'left-over' from a year or two back to this past summer.
Next would be a 'Used but not Abused'. {Logic says NOW might be a good time
for inventory bargains. Or AFTER Christmas . . .}. While you will pay more
from a local dealer, a warrantee or some kind of written guarantee is
likely. IF you are 'engine savvy' and have the tools . . . the open market
{ebay, 'craigs list', etc.}is always there.

After you get a 'feel' for the pricing in YOUR area . . . the decision MAY
be easier.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"Gil" wrote
Hey guys and gals -

SNIP
Anyway...as most may not know, my Suzuki DT140 (1985) two stroke, oil
injected outboard motor got burnt (internally) probably lack of oil
circulation or cooling system . . .told it will cost over $1,000.00 for
repair.

All of you, compairing the pro and cons of repairing the motor for less
than $3,000 or go for a newer engine (avg 7k to 10k dollars). SNIP

Gil

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:13:59 -0400, Gil wrote:

Hey guys and gals -

I need or widsom in my situation. I started the topic about
Ethanol..and now they are talking about those rubber-bands airplans (how
in the world can go off topic seriously).

Anyway...as most may not know, my Suzuki DT140 (1985) two stroke, oil
injected outboard motor got burnt (internally) probably lack of oil
circulation or cooling system was not working, in either case, I was
told it will cost over $1,000.00 for repair. I have requested a full
cost, but waiting for that to come in, but in the mean time:

All of you, compairing the pro and cons of repairing the motor for less
than $3,000 or go for a newer engine (avg 7k to 10k dollars). Due to
changes in our fuel situation where additives are being added to
gasoline, I worry about older model motors not being able to handle the
fuel changes versus newer engine that are design for the changes in the
fuel contents.

Should I go for new motor or stick with the old true blue regular
gasoline engine?

Gil

p.s. I've posted this question in another group..please pardon me if you
see this again in a different newsgroup.


I can't comment on whether you repair your Suzuki motor or not but
before you use a fuel that contains alcohol (which I understand is
used in U.S. fuel) read the manual. I have a Mercury 3 H.P. outboard
for which the manual specifically STATES " DO NOT USE FUEL CONTAINING
ALCHOL IN THIS ENGINE".


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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"Gil" wrote:

Anyway...as most may not know, my Suzuki DT140 (1985) two stroke, oil
injected outboard motor got burnt (internally) probably lack of oil
circulation or cooling system was not working, in either case, I was told
it will cost over $1,000.00 for repair. I have requested a full cost, but
waiting for that to come in, but in the mean time:

Coming to you area soon, if not all ready there, a ban on 2 cycle engines.

I would bite the bullet, scrap the 2 cycle engine out and buy a 4 cycle
unit.

Lew

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


I can't comment on whether you repair your Suzuki motor or not but
before you use a fuel that contains alcohol (which I understand is
used in U.S. fuel) read the manual. I have a Mercury 3 H.P. outboard
for which the manual specifically STATES " DO NOT USE FUEL CONTAINING
ALCHOL IN THIS ENGINE".



I doubt there is much auto gas in the US that dose NOT have alcohol in
it by now. Too much political pressure from teh corn lobby.

OTOH, I love my Briggs and Stratton outboard!
It don't care much either way.

Richard