On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:22:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote
http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db


"Dennis Pogson" wrote:
Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the helm
seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't answering
to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?


Doubt it's too small a rudder, looked to me like a "death roll" where
the boat gets too much windward heel and spins out in the opposite
direction of a traditional broach. Could have been the canting keel
did it to them. It looked to me like the spinnaker was pretty much
under control.

They certainly weren't execting it, nobody was near the runners much
less the mainsheet.

Poor *******s looked kinda cold, too


They should have read the manual.

"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001

or

http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db

They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the
helm seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't
answering to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?

I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:15:18 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:

I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.

I missed that. Maybe they had a boom preventer rigged and either
forgot to release it, or gybed accidently as part of a roll and broach
situation.

Edgar wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message


I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.


I heard the knife comment too and wondered why they are speaking
English. I'm not clear on the nature of what was going on at all.

Wayne.B a écrit :
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001
or
http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db
They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Ther was an explanation onto "sailing anarchy" :

"From Nick Bubb, Watch Leader on Kosatka, Team Russia:
My personal highlight of the race so far was the other morning; big
rolling seas, overcast sky, freezing water, 40 knots of breeze, A6
(fractional spinnaker) and 2 reefs, fully stacked aft, Mikey on the
pumps Jez trimming, me on the wheel. We were just blasting along with
prolonged periods pf over 30 knots boat speed and a max speed of 34
knots. However this was then followed by near disaster as soon after the
watch change, Mikey and I were in the bow bailing out when we heard the
boat take off, down what must have been a huge wave, as we hit the
bottom, with nowhere to go, the boat had to either roll into the breeze
and broach or Chinese gybe (an accidental gybe).
Unfortunately the helmsman was powerless to control her and we `chinesed.'
There was carnage on deck and down below. Sail stack in the water, keel
on the wrong side, crew clipped on half underwater, runners on the wrong
side, boom in the air, spinnaker in the rig, boat half under water, kit
everywhere down below as various missiles launched themselves at the off
watch. After what seemed like an eternity we sorted the keel out,
completed the gybe, got the kite down and gybed back to our proper
course, all very relieved still to have a rig in the boat!!"

Thanks to Luc Habert for the information.
Regards.
Michel.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:52:33 +0100, Michel Pineau
wrote:

Wayne.B a écrit :
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001
or
http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db
They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Ther was an explanation onto "sailing anarchy" :

"From Nick Bubb, Watch Leader on Kosatka, Team Russia:
My personal highlight of the race so far was the other morning; big
rolling seas, overcast sky, freezing water, 40 knots of breeze, A6
(fractional spinnaker) and 2 reefs, fully stacked aft, Mikey on the
pumps Jez trimming, me on the wheel. We were just blasting along with
prolonged periods pf over 30 knots boat speed and a max speed of 34
knots. However this was then followed by near disaster as soon after the
watch change, Mikey and I were in the bow bailing out when we heard the
boat take off, down what must have been a huge wave, as we hit the
bottom, with nowhere to go, the boat had to either roll into the breeze
and broach or Chinese gybe (an accidental gybe).
Unfortunately the helmsman was powerless to control her and we `chinesed.'
There was carnage on deck and down below. Sail stack in the water, keel
on the wrong side, crew clipped on half underwater, runners on the wrong
side, boom in the air, spinnaker in the rig, boat half under water, kit
everywhere down below as various missiles launched themselves at the off
watch. After what seemed like an eternity we sorted the keel out,
completed the gybe, got the kite down and gybed back to our proper
course, all very relieved still to have a rig in the boat!!"

Thanks to Luc Habert for the information.
Regards.
Michel.

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Thank you.