I once read that Ebay Motors has a policy that when a high bidder wins a
boat, he has the opportunity to do the survey and sea trial to determine if
the boat is as stated.I can't find that nugget on Ebay now and am really
keen on a sailboat there. Can anyone help?

Don't know of such a policy. I'd think it best in any case to email the
seller and get his emailed agreement to such conditions should you be the
winning bidder. His response or lack thereof may say a lot about what he's
selling.
Len

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"Grouch" wrote in message
m...
I once read that Ebay Motors has a policy that when a high bidder wins a
boat, he has the opportunity to do the survey and sea trial to determine
if
the boat is as stated.I can't find that nugget on Ebay now and am really
keen on a sailboat there. Can anyone help?

All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a basic sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey, and
financing, etc. Go from there.

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Keith
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Everybody repeat after me..."We are all individuals."
"Grouch" wrote in message
m...
I once read that Ebay Motors has a policy that when a high bidder wins a
boat, he has the opportunity to do the survey and sea trial to determine
if
the boat is as stated.I can't find that nugget on Ebay now and am really
keen on a sailboat there. Can anyone help?

"Keith" wrote in message
...
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a basic sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey, and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a legally binding
contract.

W artykule Les Dawson napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a basic sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey, and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a legally binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue eBay - they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two individuals.
--
Samotnik

"Samotnik" wrote in message
...
W artykule Les Dawson
napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a basic
sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey, and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a legally
binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue eBay - they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two individuals.
--
Samotnik

I have written sellers and asked if they would accept a bid subject to
Survey. Some will, some won't. Them who won't don't get bids.

Boat U.S. has a good service for people selling their own boats. Or buyers
for that matter. They have all the contract forms, will do title searches,
and even have an escrow service. You can get the forms for free if you're a
boat U.S. member, or use any or all of the services. I used this when
purchasing my current boat. I especially liked the escrow services, rather
than handing a big deposit check to somebody I didn't know from Adam.

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Keith
__
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look
back every now and then to make sure it's still there." - Will Rogers
"Jim" wrote in message
...

"Samotnik" wrote in message
...
W artykule Les Dawson
napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a basic
sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey, and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a legally
binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue eBay - they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two individuals.
--
Samotnik

I have written sellers and asked if they would accept a bid subject to
Survey. Some will, some won't. Them who won't don't get bids.

Well of course, ebay is an auction site. Except for the Real Estate, what
you bid on is sold "as is" and you should inspect before the sale, if not,
don't bid. When you bid you make a legal contract between yourself and the
seller to purchase. This works to your advantage since you could win the
auction and get a great boat at greatly reduced price from the "blue book".
This is so because the seller has legally agreed to sell the item when the
reserve is met, if there is a reserve.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
Boat U.S. has a good service for people selling their own boats. Or buyers
for that matter. They have all the contract forms, will do title searches,
and even have an escrow service. You can get the forms for free if you're
a
boat U.S. member, or use any or all of the services. I used this when
purchasing my current boat. I especially liked the escrow services, rather
than handing a big deposit check to somebody I didn't know from Adam.

--


Keith
__
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look
back every now and then to make sure it's still there." - Will Rogers
"Jim" wrote in message
...

"Samotnik" wrote in message
...
W artykule Les Dawson
napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a
basic
sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey,
and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a legally
binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue eBay -
they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two
individuals.
--
Samotnik

I have written sellers and asked if they would accept a bid subject to
Survey. Some will, some won't. Them who won't don't get bids.

With the exception that, if the item for sale is found to be not as
described, then the winning bidder has every right to refuse to buy. I
always email the seller and ask him to describe any faults or flaws...if
they refuse, I don't bid. A friend won the bid on a wood boat that was
described as "in good condition" only to find an undisclosed 6" hole in the
side. That seller should be responsible for travel and time lost for the
buyer. My friend regularly buys boats on Ebay to fixup and resale and he
has made some great buys, but a few stinkers that he had to refuse as well.
Ask lots of questions and emptor caveat.

"sayah" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well of course, ebay is an auction site. Except for the Real Estate, what
you bid on is sold "as is" and you should inspect before the sale, if not,
don't bid. When you bid you make a legal contract between yourself and
the
seller to purchase. This works to your advantage since you could win the
auction and get a great boat at greatly reduced price from the "blue
book".
This is so because the seller has legally agreed to sell the item when the
reserve is met, if there is a reserve.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
Boat U.S. has a good service for people selling their own boats. Or
buyers
for that matter. They have all the contract forms, will do title
searches,
and even have an escrow service. You can get the forms for free if
you're
a
boat U.S. member, or use any or all of the services. I used this when
purchasing my current boat. I especially liked the escrow services,
rather
than handing a big deposit check to somebody I didn't know from Adam.

--


Keith
__
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look
back every now and then to make sure it's still there." - Will Rogers
"Jim" wrote in message
...

"Samotnik" wrote in message
...
W artykule Les
Dawson
napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no
legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a
basic
sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial, survey,
and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a
legally
binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue eBay -
they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They
of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options
to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two
individuals.
--
Samotnik

I have written sellers and asked if they would accept a bid subject to
Survey. Some will, some won't. Them who won't don't get bids.

Descriptions are always open to interpretation. This is what's called under
the law "puffing". What does a term "cream puff" really mean? It is up to
the buyer to inspect and verify, before bidding. Wouldn't you do this with
a car?

"QLW" wrote in message
...
With the exception that, if the item for sale is found to be not as
described, then the winning bidder has every right to refuse to buy. I
always email the seller and ask him to describe any faults or flaws...if
they refuse, I don't bid. A friend won the bid on a wood boat that was
described as "in good condition" only to find an undisclosed 6" hole in
the
side. That seller should be responsible for travel and time lost for the
buyer. My friend regularly buys boats on Ebay to fixup and resale and he
has made some great buys, but a few stinkers that he had to refuse as
well.
Ask lots of questions and emptor caveat.

"sayah" wrote in message
nk.net...
Well of course, ebay is an auction site. Except for the Real Estate,
what
you bid on is sold "as is" and you should inspect before the sale, if
not,
don't bid. When you bid you make a legal contract between yourself and
the
seller to purchase. This works to your advantage since you could win
the
auction and get a great boat at greatly reduced price from the "blue
book".
This is so because the seller has legally agreed to sell the item when
the
reserve is met, if there is a reserve.
"Keith" wrote in message
...
Boat U.S. has a good service for people selling their own boats. Or
buyers
for that matter. They have all the contract forms, will do title
searches,
and even have an escrow service. You can get the forms for free if
you're
a
boat U.S. member, or use any or all of the services. I used this when
purchasing my current boat. I especially liked the escrow services,
rather
than handing a big deposit check to somebody I didn't know from Adam.

--


Keith
__
"If you're riding ahead of the herd, take a look
back every now and then to make sure it's still there." - Will Rogers
"Jim" wrote in message
...

"Samotnik" wrote in message
...
W artykule Les
Dawson
napisa³(a):
All E-bay does is connect the buyer and seller. There is no
legally
binding
contact via E-bay. You get together with the seller and sign a
basic
sales
contract (at least you should!) contingent on sea trial,
survey,
and
financing, etc. Go from there.


That's not true in the UK where winning an auction creates a
legally
binding
contract.

OK, but not between eBay and the buyer, just between the buyer and
seller. It's a great difference, because you cannot i.e. sue
eBay -
they
only give a platform to connect the parties and nothing more. They
of
course try to do it as good as they can, so they give some options
to
secure the transaction, but it's still a thing between two
individuals.
--
Samotnik

I have written sellers and asked if they would accept a bid subject
to
Survey. Some will, some won't. Them who won't don't get bids.