http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1

"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Now that is one crazy boat with one crazy mission. Rather like trying to
find the end of a rainbow. And being an unmanned vessel which cannot change
its course other than to maintain its "dead into the wind" heading, doesn't
it pose a hazard to other vessels it might come across?
--
KLC Lewis
www.cafepress.com/tmen
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard


I see they are taking donations:
http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=8&L=1

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on
the site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It
can't work. You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a
boat to make the entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It
isn't going to happen because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard
I see they are taking donations:
http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=8&L=1



Scammers like this can always count on donations from the gullible. Probably
was the reason it was posted here in the first place.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

Casady

In article ,
says...
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

LOL! and it would probably take a 2500Hp tow truck
to drag one to windward at any reasonable rate. ;-)


Mark Borgerson

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on
the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't
work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

Casady


The reason a windmill can put out that kind of horsepower is because they
are firmly attached to the ground. In other words they cannot be blown
backwards by the wind. The ground and tower pushes back against the wind
thus providing a vector's worth of power to the system.

Put one on a catamaran and it will be blown backwards until it experiences
little or no apparent wind. If it were 100% efficient the best it could do
is stay in place against the wind. We all know there is no 100% efficient
machine. That would be a perpetual motion machine which the laws of physics
say cannot be.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur,

What's this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgPJNk4vQM

Seem to be lots of pictures on the web, too.

Dave M.

"David Martel" wrote in message
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Wilbur,

What's this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgPJNk4vQM

Seem to be lots of pictures on the web, too.

Dave M.



What is that but a video taken from a boat that seems to be bobbing up and
down with waves coming towards it. There is absolutely no evidence of the
slightest bit of forward motion nor of any propelling device. The thing
could be anchored for all one can see of it. If any of this were real there
would exist hundreds of videos showing this craft and others moving directly
upwind against a marked course (maybe fixed buoys) taken from directly above
with plenty of wind vanes in plain view. There would be videos of an
impartial certification team that thoroughly checking out the vessel for
hidden propulsion methods such as batteries or other outside sources of
power. But such videos do not exist and will not exist unless they are
highly faked and unsubstantiated.

Wilbur Hubbard