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Now that is one crazy boat with one crazy mission. Rather like trying to
find the end of a rainbow. And being an unmanned vessel which cannot change
its course other than to maintain its "dead into the wind" heading, doesn't
it pose a hazard to other vessels it might come across?
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Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

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Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard


I see they are taking donations:
http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=8&L=1
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Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on
the site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It
can't work. You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a
boat to make the entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It
isn't going to happen because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

I see they are taking donations:
http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=8&L=1




Scammers like this can always count on donations from the gullible. Probably
was the reason it was posted here in the first place.

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I gotta admit, it's more imaginative than, "Greetings my friend, I am Oboe
Ndugu, former Nigerian government official..."


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I gotta admit, it's more imaginative than, "Greetings my friend, I am Oboe
Ndugu, former Nigerian government official..."




This is so refreshing. This is a more enlightened group that those fools
over in Great Britain on uk.rec.sailing. Most all those idiots over there
believe in this propeller contraption pie-in-the-sky sailing directly upwind
crap.

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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

Casady
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1


Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

LOL! and it would probably take a 2500Hp tow truck
to drag one to windward at any reasonable rate. ;-)


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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:58:09 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Capt.Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.windvinder.com/index.php?id=14&L=1



Nobody's seen it because it doesn't exist. It is a pipe dream. Notice on
the
site there are no photographs of it in action. Just drawings. It can't
work.
You cannot harness enough wind power with a windmill on a boat to make the
entire untethered vessel proceed directly upwind. It isn't going to happen
because it defies the laws of physics.

Wilbur Hubbard

The usual windmills around here put out 2000 hp.

Casady



The reason a windmill can put out that kind of horsepower is because they
are firmly attached to the ground. In other words they cannot be blown
backwards by the wind. The ground and tower pushes back against the wind
thus providing a vector's worth of power to the system.

Put one on a catamaran and it will be blown backwards until it experiences
little or no apparent wind. If it were 100% efficient the best it could do
is stay in place against the wind. We all know there is no 100% efficient
machine. That would be a perpetual motion machine which the laws of physics
say cannot be.

Wilbur Hubbard





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