I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

--
Sir Gregory

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:



I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

===

That's an old, tired out troll. Don't you have any fresh material?

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:31:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:



I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

===

That's an old, tired out troll. Don't you have any fresh material?


It was fresh enough to hook you. LOL! Besides, this group
is DEAD anyway. It makes a good test group to make sure
posts propagate. Everybody went away and are too busy on
FB and Twitter, yacking away as if they are somebody.

The fools!

--
Sir Gregory

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

In article ,
, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. says...

I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

There's another speed, called planing speed. Ditch that piece of chit
diesel motor and do what all Americans do... fit a V8 - infact fit
several V8's. I'd say 4 would be about right. No reason you can't get
40+ kts out your boat. And get rid of those sails wasting all that
space. And cut down that mast, it'll be handy keeping warm in winter
months for the fire.

--
Duncan.

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:36:24 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:31:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:



I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

===

That's an old, tired out troll. Don't you have any fresh material?


It was fresh enough to hook you. LOL! Besides, this group
is DEAD anyway. It makes a good test group to make sure
posts propagate. Everybody went away and are too busy on
FB and Twitter, yacking away as if they are somebody.

The fools!


Yup, they went away. Cruising. While you stayed behind in your little
yellow toy.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

Even better, your boat has that outboard you trumpet so loudly...

:)

Currently fighting a GPS issue myself...

L8R

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:36:24 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:31:04 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:



I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

===

That's an old, tired out troll. Don't you have any fresh material?


It was fresh enough to hook you. LOL! Besides, this group
is DEAD anyway. It makes a good test group to make sure
posts propagate. Everybody went away and are too busy on
FB and Twitter, yacking away as if they are somebody.

The fools!


Yup, they went away. Cruising. While you stayed behind in your little
yellow toy.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:05:05 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Even better, your boat has that outboard you trumpet so loudly...

Are you talking to me or Bruce? I doubt Bruce needs an
engine at all since he's a land lubber now whose boat
rots at the dock - a sad reminder of his failed aspirations.

:)
Currently fighting a GPS issue myself...

Tell us about it. Wayne and Bruce will advise you to
simply hook up the wires backwards and that will
solve your problems.

LOL!

--
Sir Gregory

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in
:

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

Try leaving the inside row of trots in a couple of knots of tide on a
twisty river with a high wooded bank on one side and a modern multistory
residential development on the other is a safe and seamanlike manner
without one.

The wind's too flukey to sail on or off the inner row moorings due to the
buildings unless a rare northeasterly is strong enough to stem the tide
ubder genoa.

The days of individual swinging moorings with enough room to not only
sail on/off them but also recover from a flubbed approach without
resorting to engine are long gone in most areas due to the pressure for
moring space.

Lets not even get into the subject of dead end berths in river marinas
exposed to the current.

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I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote this crap:



I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

You're an idiot. It's nice to have a motor when docking. I can sail
into the dock but why make things harder? When you can afford a 35
ft. sailboat and a dock then you can tell me what I can do with the
motor. Your cheap ass inflatable doesn't need a motor anyway. My
toilet paper costs more than your sails.


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On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:29:04 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote this crap:

I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

You're an idiot. It's nice to have a motor when docking. I can sail
into the dock but why make things harder? When you can afford a 35
ft. sailboat and a dock then you can tell me what I can do with the
motor. Your cheap ass inflatable doesn't need a motor anyway. My
toilet paper costs more than your sails.


Both you and Ian are not pure sailors by definition.
You are auxiliary sailors which means you don't sail
but part of the time. You are not skilled enough or
patient enough to trust in your ability to sail
everywhere. Instead you *barge* your way into places
where you shouldn't go in the first place by using your
motor. Pretty soon it ends up that you use your motor
more than you use your sails.

Instead of heading out for a day sail or an afternoon
sail, you start the motor and proceed thinking when you
get out of the harbor and traffic you can then bend on
the sails.

But, then you say to yourself. "I'm only going a little
way so why bother with the sails. I'll just keep using
the motor." Or you say, "I'll just unroll the headsail
and *act* like I'm sailing." I see it all the time and
so do you guys and you can't deny it.

--
Sir Gregory

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote:

Both you and Ian are not pure sailors by definition.
You are auxiliary sailors which means you don't sail
but part of the time. You are not skilled enough or
patient enough to trust in your ability to sail
everywhere.

I've roughed it dinghy cruising when I was younger, but my sailing purist
days are over till I retire and have the time to wait for wind and tide
again.

I even crew for motor boaters! Unlike you, I dont have any issues with
power except the running costs. If good friends want me to conn their
boat for a couple of hours and feed me well on top of that, and think I'm
doing them a favour and wont hear of me kicking in on the expenses, I'll
make time to fit their trip in.

A bad day on the water is better than a good day in the office and for
most of us working stiffs, a reliable engine gives us more days on the
water than we could otherwise fit in.

--
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I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:07:48 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote this crap:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:29:04 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:21:11 -0400, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote this crap:

I have in my sailboat a 20-year-old diesel.

I've never used it because I use the sails. I just
can't figure out why it was installed in the first
place. It takes up valuable space and it's useless
weight. Now, its starting to rust all over - a real
eyesore.

What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?

You're an idiot. It's nice to have a motor when docking. I can sail
into the dock but why make things harder? When you can afford a 35
ft. sailboat and a dock then you can tell me what I can do with the
motor. Your cheap ass inflatable doesn't need a motor anyway. My
toilet paper costs more than your sails.


Both you and Ian are not pure sailors by definition.

How do you know this?

You are auxiliary sailors which means you don't sail
but part of the time. You are not skilled enough or
patient enough to trust in your ability to sail
everywhere. Instead you *barge* your way into places
where you shouldn't go in the first place by using your
motor. Pretty soon it ends up that you use your motor
more than you use your sails.

You don't even know where I sail. I am a Mill's Race winner and I
have plenty of trophys from my Yacht Club. What have you got?

Instead of heading out for a day sail or an afternoon
sail, you start the motor and proceed thinking when you
get out of the harbor and traffic you can then bend on
the sails.

I've solo sailed to Put-in-Bay. Not many sailors can say that.

But, then you say to yourself. "I'm only going a little
way so why bother with the sails. I'll just keep using
the motor." Or you say, "I'll just unroll the headsail
and *act* like I'm sailing." I see it all the time and
so do you guys and you can't deny it.

You putter around the lake for a few hours and call yourself a sailor.
I've killed people like you then played the banjo and ordered pizza.

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I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
..
What's wrong with people who pay for a motor in a
sailboat they don't really need? Do they think
it's *cool* to pretend to be a motorboat? Don't
they realize that a sailboat will never be a motor-
boat because of something called *hull speed*?
..

Hokay...

Let's suppose you're becalmed in the Sargasso Sea & are being
ineluctably drawn towards what looks suspiciously like a vegetative
whirlpool "event" - **** whether it looks "cool" or not, just fire the
motor up & get the hell out - dOOd!..
..

I have a 20-year-old diesel
 

On 05/09/2014 00:01, 52% wrote:

Hokay...

Let's suppose you're becalmed in the Sargasso Sea & are being
ineluctably drawn towards what looks suspiciously like a vegetative
whirlpool "event" - **** whether it looks "cool" or not, just fire the
motor up & get the hell out - dOOd!..
..

Just ignore him is best.

He's obviously not aware of planing hulls either...

Andy