On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:57:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:11:39 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Real men don't sell their freedom in
pursuit of a ball and chain around their ankles.

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Real men don't make a specialty of telling other people how to live.

Real men do exactly that when other people's unnecessary
diesel exhaust fumes pollute the very air they have to
breathe to stay alive. You lubbers aren't satisfied with
polluting the land. You have to bring your act out on
the water and pollute that pristine environment as well.

Disgustingly hedonistic and totally unnecessary. Rude
is the word for it.

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Sir Gregory

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:30:20 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:13:21 +0700, wrote:

Well, if your assertion is correct then you obviously not a "cruiser"
as your great search for the best outboard motor is well documented on
the web.

Yes, yes, I know you will to alibi by saying that it was for your
dinghy, but a bloke who can't operate a tiny little dinghy without a
motor can obviously not operate a great big, 25 ft, sailing boat
without a motor.

I don't know which one you are referring to
because I do have two little outboards. I
have a 2.5 HP for the dinghy and a 6 HP for
the mother ship.

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?

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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:39:03 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:57:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:11:39 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Real men don't sell their freedom in
pursuit of a ball and chain around their ankles.

===

Real men don't make a specialty of telling other people how to live.

Real men do exactly that when other people's unnecessary
diesel exhaust fumes pollute the very air they have to
breathe to stay alive. You lubbers aren't satisfied with
polluting the land. You have to bring your act out on
the water and pollute that pristine environment as well.

Disgustingly hedonistic and totally unnecessary. Rude
is the word for it.

See there Wayne. Real sailorman don't contaminate the world with
diesel fumes.... instead, being insignificant, they prefer to
contaminate it with their insignificant little outboards.

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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:52:42 +0700, wrote:

See there Wayne. Real sailorman don't contaminate the world with
diesel fumes.... instead, being insignificant, they prefer to
contaminate it with their insignificant little outboards.


LOL! Only a fool like you would try to compare a 6 HP 4-Stroke
outboard that meets California Ultra Low Emission Standards
and is rarely run to a huge diesel pollution machine that is
run all the freaking time.

You must be smoking some fine weed over there, Bruce.

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Sir Gregory

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:45:23 +0700, wrote:

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?


You don't seem to get it, Bruce. A 6 HP outboard motor on a heavy
27-foot sailboat (8,500 lbs) is almost not enough to get it to
hull speed in flat water. Throw in any kind of wind and seas and
it's far more efficient and faster to sail.

Big diesel motors are used most of the time because they are so
powerful that they can deal with high winds and seas even from
dead ahead.

So real sailors tend to use weak motors because they know the
proper sails do a faster and better job while the diesel motor
heads rarely even bother raising sail because they become spoiled
by the diesel and turn into motor heads. Some of them are honest
enough to admit that they have turned into trawler people because
they could no longer handle the rigors of actually sailing.

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Sir Gregory

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:33:40 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:52:42 +0700, wrote:

See there Wayne. Real sailorman don't contaminate the world with
diesel fumes.... instead, being insignificant, they prefer to
contaminate it with their insignificant little outboards.


LOL! Only a fool like you would try to compare a 6 HP 4-Stroke
outboard that meets California Ultra Low Emission Standards
and is rarely run to a huge diesel pollution machine that is
run all the freaking time.

You must be smoking some fine weed over there, Bruce.

Nope. Being fully functional I have no need to smoke dope to feel
good. I can feel good without chemical assistance.
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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:38:18 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:45:23 +0700, wrote:

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?


You don't seem to get it, Bruce. A 6 HP outboard motor on a heavy
27-foot sailboat (8,500 lbs) is almost not enough to get it to
hull speed in flat water. Throw in any kind of wind and seas and
it's far more efficient and faster to sail.

No, the guy that doesn't get it isn't me. You are the one telling the
world that a real sailorman doesn't need an engine and then we
discover that you, in fact, have an engine on your boat.

Which pretty well proves that either you aren't a real sailor, or that
you tell lies.

Big diesel motors are used most of the time because they are so
powerful that they can deal with high winds and seas even from
dead ahead.

So real sailors tend to use weak motors because they know the
proper sails do a faster and better job while the diesel motor
heads rarely even bother raising sail because they become spoiled
by the diesel and turn into motor heads. Some of them are honest
enough to admit that they have turned into trawler people because
they could no longer handle the rigors of actually sailing.

I see... so sails do a faster job, but the engine is capable of
propelling the boat in the face of high winds and heavy seas...

High Winds being, by definition 30 Knot winds and "heavy seas" being
what? 6 - 8 foot breaking waves?

Are you sure that you are a boater?
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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok