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![]() Hobieshane wrote: Thanks for all the info. I am familiar with the toilet and the wet/dry mode. That definitely isn't the issue as I move the lever to dry after each use. Even in the dry mode, water is entering the head. As simple as it sounds, I believe the issue is that I've been leaving the seacock during the week when I'm not using the boat. It's actually two issues--open seacock AND the wet/dry cam in the pump has failed...it's not cutting off the flow of flush water any more. That's a VERY common problem in Jabsco toilets made in the 5-6 years, due to either a design or tooling defect. And apparently Jabsco has no intention of correcting it till the mold for that little part wears out. It also provides an excellent illustration of why relying on the wet/dry valve instead of closing the seacocks when leaving the boat is VERY risky...'cuz while it's a common problem in Jabsco toilets, no toilet is immune from wet/dry valve failure. I guess I need to close the seacock between uses as well. This is inconvenient, but possible as I have pretty easy access to the seacock. A vented loop in the head intake would prevent water from rising in the bowl while the boat is at rest, but would not prevent it while the boat is underway. So, yes...till you replace the wet dry valve--or better yet, replace the toilet with one that's better quality--you will have to keep the seacocks closed between uses while underway, but if you install a loop, you could leave 'em open at the dock. I am still not sure about the second pump that I have. I will take pictures and send, but here's a bit better explanation of if: The pump is a hand pump similar to a manual bilge pump. It forms an upside down "T". 1. Hose enters boat through seacock and does a loop to about 5' in the air. This is a 2nd seacock - not the one used for water to enter the head. It is also larger. Probably 1 1/2" hose vs. the smaller used for the head intake. That's your head DISCHARGE...the hose EXITS the boat at that thru-hull. There should be a y-valve in that line that allows you to choose between flushing directly overboard or into the tank. What passes for a manual for your toilet is on the Jabsco website he http://www.jabsco.com/prodInfo/overv...UAL_TOILET.PDF You can see a drawing and illustrations of typical installations...I think if you compare those illustrations to what you have, what you have will become a lot clearer. 2. It goes back to form the stick part of the T. 3. On the "across" part of the T (bottom of pump), there is flow going from holding tank to the pump out access on the deck. I am assuming this is used to help push the material out and to flush the system. None of that makes any sense...I'm gonna have to see some photos and sketches of the plumbing runs to know what you have. What you SHOULD have: 3/4" ID hose from intake through-hull to the pump...at the back on the bottom of the "compartment" that houses the wet/dry lever and cam. There should be no loop in that line. 3/4" hose coming off the top of the pump to the inlet fitting on the back of the bowl. The should be a vented loop in that line that's high enough to be at least 6-8" above the waterline at any angle of heel...but there may not be...it may be only a short piece of hose between the pump and bowl. Both the pump and the bowl rest on a cross piece called the base. It's not a pump...the Jabsco manual only has one dual action pump. 1" or 1.5" hose off the back of the bottom of the pump that MAY go only to a tank, or may go to a y-valve...one side of the y-valve up and over a vented loop (same height as the intake loop) and to a thru-hull..the other side to a fitting at or on the top of the tank. 1/5" hose coming off the tank at the bottom...it will either go directly the deck pumpout fitting, or MAY go to either a y-valve or tee fitting...one side to the deck pumpout fitting, the other side to a pump (manual diaphragm...i.e. Whale Gusher, or electric macerator pump), then up and over yet a 3rd vented loop to a thru-hull--which may be separate from the direct toilet discharge thru-hull, or may be teed into that line to use the same thru-hull. If what you have is much different from that, it's plumbed incorrectly and needs to be corrected...but I suspect that's pretty much what you have--+/- some or all vented loops. If you aren't sure what things like manual discharge pumps, macerators, y-valves (aka diverter valves) and vented loops look like, do a search for 'em on any of the marine retail sites. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1 http://shop.sailboatowners.com/books...ku=90&cat=1304 |
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