Good stuff Larry, thanks.
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"MMC" wrote in
:

While on a four man EOD Team at Refit Site One (USS Hunley), Holy Loch
Scotland, I learned the actual value of $3.98 "K-BAR" fighting knives.
One of my secondary duties was supply and my OIC couldn't figure out
why we always order knives by the box, but was very pleased that all
maintainence, calibration, and team gear were in order whenever a
mission or inspection popped up!



Electronic calibration in the panic before an inspection is gonna cost
you big favors and markers well into the future from our shop....(c;

I remember one time the Canopus (AS) cal lab got overloaded and there was
some crazy inspection or other happening tomorrow. Strings were pulled
and my shop filled up with some sub's equipment within an hour!

I had stumbled onto a supply of votive candles (thousands) over in the
salvage yard some chaplain tossed out. So, as the astonished bubbleheads
looked on, one of the technicians wrapped a fart sack around his head to
make his turban. We stuck a white cal lab sticker on the turban where
the jewel should have gone. Someone else put a votive candle on each
piece of equipment they'd brought and lit it, putting a nice warm glow in
the lab. The guy with the fart sack turban took a brass spitoon filled
with our ship's evaporator "holy water" and sprinkled the sacred
calibration blessing, while chanting some foreign tongue he'd heard from
a Naples cabbie whos fare had split, over the equipments, instantly
putting all of them in perfect alignment...without even opening the
cases! Another cal lab concubine blew out the candles behind him and put
them back in the sacred box quite reverently. The last guy affixed the
coveted 'CALIBRATED' stickers, stamping and dating them as appropriate.

After the added "Blessing of the Bubbleheads" was performed on the
equipment carriers, guaranteeing safe passage back to the sub, a final
blessing of the local cal lab technicians was performed and we all helped
them load their gear back into their truck.

Passing their inspection with flying colors with all this calibrated
equipment, they brought the gear back for "regulation" calibration a few
days later with, of course, a deluxe ship's plaque for our bulkhead
collection and their captain's letter of commendation for our personnel
jackets, the original of which was framed and hung under the sub's nice
plaque.

The formalities of receiving over, we set out on our task to insure
accuracy of submarine equipment. We surface sailors were well aware of
how our safety was challenged should submarines' calibrations be "off a
tad", as we say in the calibration biz.

Another happy customer with fond memories of USS Everglades (AD-24).

"We Fix Subito!"

"MMC" wrote in news:AIilf.57708$1l6.52491
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Good stuff Larry, thanks.


The sad part is I can remember such details about something that happened
in 1968.....but, alas, I can't find my keys and can stand in one spot and
lose hand tools in plain sight....(c;

Thanks Larry,
I'll get on it.
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"MMC" wrote in news:751lf.56841$1l6.17617
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Larry,
How do you download and use these files?
MMC


You need four pieces of software.....

I use Xnews from http://xnews.newsguy.com as the download client because
it
has a nice Q field where I can que up all the pieces of all the files I
want then simply walk away and let Xnews do the work on tens of thousands
of message files. Xnews will download, decode any encoding scheme,
assemble the group of messages that make up a piece and store it in
whatever download directory you tell it to.

You mark all the various pieces on Xnews' nicely-compiled file list. It
automatically threads (collapsed) all messages of a part, say a single
..rar
file into one line on the list. You simply click the Q field in that line
and a que number is installed for that line. You click and drag down the
Q
field to select all the rar and par files for the movie you want. After
you've marked one, click the blue rubix cube in the middle of the lower
edge of the newsgroup panel and a window will pop up for you to select
where all these files should be stored on your disk...in a SEPARATE
directory from where your movies are actually stored, please! You
continue
to mark more movies until you bottom out the list...today. You can mark
more files while it's downloading, no problem. The numbers just get
updated ok.

Ok, we've gotten all the .rar parts and all the .par parts for "The Movie"
on the MOVIE DOWNLOAD directory. We'll need two more pieces of software
to, first, check the rar files with the par files for parity accuracy,
automatically CORRECTING any errors, even supplying missing whole parts if
there are enough par files present. The software for that is freeware
called "Quickpar" from:
http://www.quickpar.org.uk/
Install it in the usual manner...run the .exe file and follow the
instructions.

Ok, all the rar pieces (or in another case the numbered pieces like .001,
.002, .003 which I'll describe in a minute) have been parchecked and
automatically fixed by Quickpar for this movie. Now we'll need another
proprietary software called WinRAR from http://www.rarlabs.com/ that's
shareware to read all the pieces, uncompress them by a lot, assemble all
these uncompressed rar files and store the REAL movie on you MOVIE
directory to watch. (It's really easy to do all this in a few minutes
after you get the swing of it.)

Download and install WinRAR. You can pay for it later. This is
proprietary and the finest file splitter, well worth the pittance it
costs....about 2 movie tickets in our scenario..(c;

Once Winrar is installed, it assigns itself to handle all the rar files
and
files numbered .r01, .r02, .r03 from the old version of the encoder. To
automatically combine all these rar parts into the movie file, just
doubleclick on your Windows Explorer on file with the ending "part01.rar"
or ".r01" on the end of it. DO NOT BE ALARMED NOTHING HAPPENS INSTANTLY!
Before Winrar pops up the interface screen, it gets basic information from
the first rar file telling it what SHOULD be there and does a thorough
test
before it boots the windows window looking for you. This can take 30
seconds to a minute on these huge movie files. Just wait.

Ok the Winrar window pops up and you see the file in the file list you
clicked, now what? Click on JUST THAT FILE....nothing else. This keeps
you from tryin to decode some asshole's virus someone may have attached.
It happens VERY infrequently as these posters are very proud to post what
they post. It's a regular hacker competition to see who has the best copy
of some movie the theatres won't get until 3 weeks from now. So, click
and
highlight just that ONE file with the .mpg or .avi or .dat (VCD wrapper)
that's the movie. Some movies come with several other small files for
chapters and subtitles! ALL these extra parts are optional and up to you.
I like subtitles if they are available. Subtitle files have extension
..sub
and the chapter files have .idx extensions on them. It's ok to get them,
too. Some .subs are separate rar files on the server you'll have to
decode
with winrar separately. It's up to the poster how he splits them.

Now that you've highlighted the filename in Winrar's file window, click
the
EXTRACT button and a directory tree selection menu should popup. (On some
complex winrar sets, a window will pop up asking you if you want the whole
set or just the file you've highlighted. There may be HIDDEN FILES so,
being a paranoid that has served me well, I tell it just the file(s) I've
selected to make sure.) Be SURE to select your MOVIE directory, not the
root directory or desktop or some place crazy so you have to search all
over for the movie. You can set an option to open a default location in
Winrar. Click OK and Winrar will create a watchable movie file with an
extension like .avi (almost universally DivX format movies now), .mpg
(almost universally VCD or SVCD format, now, which is Video CD or Super
Video CD), or .wmv/wma in Windoze Media format. DO NOT DECODE OR RUN ANY
.BAT, .COM, .EXE, .VBS or any kind of RUNABLE files! If you see a runable
file in the winrar window when it boots up....DELETE IT AND FORGET THIS
MOVIE AS IT MAY BE JUST A VIRUS/TROJAN INSTALLER. **** happens....

Oh, oh....we tried to watch the movie and it wouldn't play with any
standard player on our computer.....nuts! The movies are in DivX or VCD
formats that BillyDOS, in cooperation with his movie and music friends,
does not include in Windoze to try to prevent you from seeing them. Isn't
that nice after you've given him $300? The cure is a new player that's
free from some really smart French engineering students in Paris, called
VLC (Videolan Client), which comes with its OWN codecs that'll play most
anything on the planet....so good the MPAA lawyers are all over them to
try
to block them or bankrupt them.

VLC player is available as freeware from:
http://www.videolan.org/
Click the "Download Now for Windows 9.0MB" to go to the download page.
VLC
is a great little movie player that's gotten even better with 400 hackers
making improvements to it across the planet. It comes as an auto-install
.exe file. Download and run it to install VLC, very simply.

When VLC asks if you want it to be the default player, say YES and it
automates it running all the movies and music it can run. After you've
gotten it installed, simply point your mouse in Windows Explorer at the
new
movie and doubleclick. VLC will boot and start your movie. Right click
on
the movie, itself, and pick FULL SCREEN to put VLC in TV mode. There are
a
LOT of controls in VLC to play with. The docs are also for downloading on
their webpage. Your movie runs....sounds crappy on those cheap PC
speakers....so get some cables and HOOK THE PC TO THE BIG STEREO! In the
boat, I recommend buying the PC an FM transmitter module so you can listen
to the movie on the boat's nice installed stereo system from whereever the
laptop is running the movie....laid back in the cockpit, libation in
hand....

Oh, look at that guy MMC 2 slips over! Is that "Master and Commander"
playing on his notebook through the cockpit stereo speakers?? COOL!
For those boring dock parties, just boot up a good concert or chick flick
and watch those beautiful girls from down the dock slip quietly into your
boat to watch...(c;....making all this decoding WELL worth the effort!

I can see, already, you're running out of hard drive space. You'll need
permanent storage on DVD+R for archive and I recommend a Maxtor 300GB
external hard drive to plug into the notebook's USB2 port for online movie
storage....hundreds of movies and thousands of MP3 music files in one box
on the boat. Works great, and you can just take the hard drive to someone
else's party and run VLC on their computer. On DVD's you get SIX DivX
movies on a single DVD if they were encoded, as most are, to fit on a
single CDR..733MB. The higher res DivX movies, you get 3 on a DVD,
usually
split in two to store on cheap CDRs by the poster.

You can also get a gazillion MP3 music files from Usenet with Xnews more
directly! You don't need Winrar or Quickpar for MP3 files. They are
simply split in Usenet to overcome usenet's 10000 lines/message limits on
some servers. If you point to a song, which will show up on a single line
in Xnews' list (collapsed), Xnews will deocde the MP3 directly to a
playable MP3 file as it wasn't compressed with Winrar, just split and
posted. Those newsgroups start with alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre here).
Whatever type of music you like, Usenet has a group for it....

I have 21,000,000 MP3 files collected over about 12 years. Party
music?...shuffled? No problem.

Need an MP3 catalog program to organize them? MP3 Catalog Pro from:
http://www.wizetech.com/amc/
These Russians have the finest MP3 catalog program on the
planet...Blazingly fast, even on HUGE directories with 10000 MP3 files in
them! All others just suck by comparison.

"Have you got 'My Love's Gone' or any music by the Platters?", she asks in
a husky voice. You click the search in AMC and type in Platters. A new
window pops up showing her the 329 Platters songs scattered across your
300GB hard drive in 28 directories. "Oh, I want to hear that one.", she
says smiling at you and pointing those lovely fingers at your screen. You
click and drag it into Winamp's playlist under the song that's playing,
now. "It will play next.", you reassure her slipping your arm casually
around here waist ready to dance her night away. Great program...(c;

Life is GOOD......

Hi, Larry, and group,

I apologize if we've covered this ground before, but...

If any have been following my quest to have wifi wherever I throw out the
hook, you'll know that I'm pretty close, leaving that part until I get the
other shoreside wrapups done first. However, if I'm surfing a hotspot, I'm
not subscribed to any newsgroups from that location.

Meanwhile, thanks for the very thorough tutorial in the other areas needed
(left below for latecomers)! But...

How do I do newsgroup subscriptions through a foreign (not native to my
machine, therefore, not keyed to a service they provide) ISP, unknown to me
(I wouldn't know the ISP, and even if I did, most likely it would be keyed
to whomever it was that provided the signal, which I would not know)?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip, in dialup hell unless I'm on the boat, which will be some time in the
foreseeable future as rehab continues apace

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
"MMC" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks Larry,
I'll get on it.
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"MMC" wrote in news:751lf.56841$1l6.17617
@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

Larry,
How do you download and use these files?
MMC


You need four pieces of software.....

I use Xnews from http://xnews.newsguy.com as the download client because
it
has a nice Q field where I can que up all the pieces of all the files I
want then simply walk away and let Xnews do the work on tens of thousands
of message files. Xnews will download, decode any encoding scheme,
assemble the group of messages that make up a piece and store it in
whatever download directory you tell it to.

You mark all the various pieces on Xnews' nicely-compiled file list. It
automatically threads (collapsed) all messages of a part, say a single
.rar
file into one line on the list. You simply click the Q field in that
line
and a que number is installed for that line. You click and drag down the
Q
field to select all the rar and par files for the movie you want. After
you've marked one, click the blue rubix cube in the middle of the lower
edge of the newsgroup panel and a window will pop up for you to select
where all these files should be stored on your disk...in a SEPARATE
directory from where your movies are actually stored, please! You
continue
to mark more movies until you bottom out the list...today. You can mark
more files while it's downloading, no problem. The numbers just get
updated ok.

Ok, we've gotten all the .rar parts and all the .par parts for "The
Movie"
on the MOVIE DOWNLOAD directory. We'll need two more pieces of software
to, first, check the rar files with the par files for parity accuracy,
automatically CORRECTING any errors, even supplying missing whole parts
if
there are enough par files present. The software for that is freeware
called "Quickpar" from:
http://www.quickpar.org.uk/
Install it in the usual manner...run the .exe file and follow the
instructions.

Ok, all the rar pieces (or in another case the numbered pieces like .001,
.002, .003 which I'll describe in a minute) have been parchecked and
automatically fixed by Quickpar for this movie. Now we'll need another
proprietary software called WinRAR from http://www.rarlabs.com/ that's
shareware to read all the pieces, uncompress them by a lot, assemble all
these uncompressed rar files and store the REAL movie on you MOVIE
directory to watch. (It's really easy to do all this in a few minutes
after you get the swing of it.)

Download and install WinRAR. You can pay for it later. This is
proprietary and the finest file splitter, well worth the pittance it
costs....about 2 movie tickets in our scenario..(c;

Once Winrar is installed, it assigns itself to handle all the rar files
and
files numbered .r01, .r02, .r03 from the old version of the encoder. To
automatically combine all these rar parts into the movie file, just
doubleclick on your Windows Explorer on file with the ending "part01.rar"
or ".r01" on the end of it. DO NOT BE ALARMED NOTHING HAPPENS INSTANTLY!
Before Winrar pops up the interface screen, it gets basic information
from
the first rar file telling it what SHOULD be there and does a thorough
test
before it boots the windows window looking for you. This can take 30
seconds to a minute on these huge movie files. Just wait.

Ok the Winrar window pops up and you see the file in the file list you
clicked, now what? Click on JUST THAT FILE....nothing else. This keeps
you from tryin to decode some asshole's virus someone may have attached.
It happens VERY infrequently as these posters are very proud to post what
they post. It's a regular hacker competition to see who has the best
copy
of some movie the theatres won't get until 3 weeks from now. So, click
and
highlight just that ONE file with the .mpg or .avi or .dat (VCD wrapper)
that's the movie. Some movies come with several other small files for
chapters and subtitles! ALL these extra parts are optional and up to
you.
I like subtitles if they are available. Subtitle files have extension
.sub
and the chapter files have .idx extensions on them. It's ok to get them,
too. Some .subs are separate rar files on the server you'll have to
decode
with winrar separately. It's up to the poster how he splits them.

Now that you've highlighted the filename in Winrar's file window, click
the
EXTRACT button and a directory tree selection menu should popup. (On
some
complex winrar sets, a window will pop up asking you if you want the
whole
set or just the file you've highlighted. There may be HIDDEN FILES so,
being a paranoid that has served me well, I tell it just the file(s) I've
selected to make sure.) Be SURE to select your MOVIE directory, not the
root directory or desktop or some place crazy so you have to search all
over for the movie. You can set an option to open a default location in
Winrar. Click OK and Winrar will create a watchable movie file with an
extension like .avi (almost universally DivX format movies now), .mpg
(almost universally VCD or SVCD format, now, which is Video CD or Super
Video CD), or .wmv/wma in Windoze Media format. DO NOT DECODE OR RUN ANY
.BAT, .COM, .EXE, .VBS or any kind of RUNABLE files! If you see a
runable
file in the winrar window when it boots up....DELETE IT AND FORGET THIS
MOVIE AS IT MAY BE JUST A VIRUS/TROJAN INSTALLER. **** happens....

Oh, oh....we tried to watch the movie and it wouldn't play with any
standard player on our computer.....nuts! The movies are in DivX or VCD
formats that BillyDOS, in cooperation with his movie and music friends,
does not include in Windoze to try to prevent you from seeing them.
Isn't
that nice after you've given him $300? The cure is a new player that's
free from some really smart French engineering students in Paris, called
VLC (Videolan Client), which comes with its OWN codecs that'll play most
anything on the planet....so good the MPAA lawyers are all over them to
try
to block them or bankrupt them.

VLC player is available as freeware from:
http://www.videolan.org/
Click the "Download Now for Windows 9.0MB" to go to the download page.
VLC
is a great little movie player that's gotten even better with 400 hackers
making improvements to it across the planet. It comes as an auto-install
.exe file. Download and run it to install VLC, very simply.

When VLC asks if you want it to be the default player, say YES and it
automates it running all the movies and music it can run. After you've
gotten it installed, simply point your mouse in Windows Explorer at the
new
movie and doubleclick. VLC will boot and start your movie. Right click
on
the movie, itself, and pick FULL SCREEN to put VLC in TV mode. There are
a
LOT of controls in VLC to play with. The docs are also for downloading
on
their webpage. Your movie runs....sounds crappy on those cheap PC
speakers....so get some cables and HOOK THE PC TO THE BIG STEREO! In the
boat, I recommend buying the PC an FM transmitter module so you can
listen
to the movie on the boat's nice installed stereo system from whereever
the
laptop is running the movie....laid back in the cockpit, libation in
hand....

Oh, look at that guy MMC 2 slips over! Is that "Master and Commander"
playing on his notebook through the cockpit stereo speakers?? COOL!
For those boring dock parties, just boot up a good concert or chick flick
and watch those beautiful girls from down the dock slip quietly into your
boat to watch...(c;....making all this decoding WELL worth the effort!

I can see, already, you're running out of hard drive space. You'll need
permanent storage on DVD+R for archive and I recommend a Maxtor 300GB
external hard drive to plug into the notebook's USB2 port for online
movie
storage....hundreds of movies and thousands of MP3 music files in one box
on the boat. Works great, and you can just take the hard drive to
someone
else's party and run VLC on their computer. On DVD's you get SIX DivX
movies on a single DVD if they were encoded, as most are, to fit on a
single CDR..733MB. The higher res DivX movies, you get 3 on a DVD,
usually
split in two to store on cheap CDRs by the poster.

You can also get a gazillion MP3 music files from Usenet with Xnews more
directly! You don't need Winrar or Quickpar for MP3 files. They are
simply split in Usenet to overcome usenet's 10000 lines/message limits on
some servers. If you point to a song, which will show up on a single
line
in Xnews' list (collapsed), Xnews will deocde the MP3 directly to a
playable MP3 file as it wasn't compressed with Winrar, just split and
posted. Those newsgroups start with alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre
here).
Whatever type of music you like, Usenet has a group for it....

I have 21,000,000 MP3 files collected over about 12 years. Party
music?...shuffled? No problem.

Need an MP3 catalog program to organize them? MP3 Catalog Pro from:
http://www.wizetech.com/amc/
These Russians have the finest MP3 catalog program on the
planet...Blazingly fast, even on HUGE directories with 10000 MP3 files in
them! All others just suck by comparison.

"Have you got 'My Love's Gone' or any music by the Platters?", she asks
in
a husky voice. You click the search in AMC and type in Platters. A new
window pops up showing her the 329 Platters songs scattered across your
300GB hard drive in 28 directories. "Oh, I want to hear that one.", she
says smiling at you and pointing those lovely fingers at your screen.
You
click and drag it into Winamp's playlist under the song that's playing,
now. "It will play next.", you reassure her slipping your arm casually
around here waist ready to dance her night away. Great program...(c;

Life is GOOD......

"Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at gmail dotcom wrote in
:

How do I do newsgroup subscriptions through a foreign (not native to
my machine, therefore, not keyed to a service they provide) ISP,
unknown to me (I wouldn't know the ISP, and even if I did, most likely
it would be keyed to whomever it was that provided the signal, which I
would not know)?



Buy into your own newsgroup service, Skip. I recommend Usenetserver.com
for its completeness and unlimited service. http://www.usenetserver.com/

You can try it for 3 days for $3 to see if it suits your purpose. As you
are connecting directly to their server beast through a regular internet
connection, it matters not who's running the net. Some ISPs, in an
attempt to shed using their service for downloading anything of value,
block port 119, the NNTP port. No problem. Usenetserver has just
responded to this nonsense by opening up 5 other port numbers for their
customers to access. Read about the odd port numbers on their website.
You'll have to specify which port number your news client uses or it will
use port 119. Not sure which client you use so can't tell you how to
configure the odd port. I hope you're not using Micro$not's Outlook
hacker target. Xnews in my message is a fine news client. I'm using it
to type this message.

Unlimited usenet service from UNS is $15/mo on your credit card for six
simultaneous port connections, no censoring of binaries in any group, no
logging or other funny business, no complaints how much you use it and NO
GIGABYTE LIMIT PER MONTH, which is its finest feature for me....(c;

Skip Gundlach wrote:
Hi, Larry, and group,

I apologize if we've covered this ground before, but...

If any have been following my quest to have wifi wherever I throw out the
hook, you'll know that I'm pretty close, leaving that part until I get the
other shoreside wrapups done first. However, if I'm surfing a hotspot, I'm
not subscribed to any newsgroups from that location.

Meanwhile, thanks for the very thorough tutorial in the other areas needed
(left below for latecomers)! But...

How do I do newsgroup subscriptions through a foreign (not native to my
machine, therefore, not keyed to a service they provide) ISP, unknown to me
(I wouldn't know the ISP, and even if I did, most likely it would be keyed
to whomever it was that provided the signal, which I would not know)?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip, in dialup hell unless I'm on the boat, which will be some time in the
foreseeable future as rehab continues apace


Your borrowed, radio linked, localized user account, enabled by his
isp, may not offer usenet service, or a connection to the newsgroup
server you may want on usenet, gopher or whatever. But, usegroup
news is still available via other http://www.hypertext.services,
google included, usually in an inferior format, with colour
pictures, ads, etc, at lower speed than even dialup usenet. Once you
have established an internet connection, you may http to your hearts
content, worldwide, unless blocked by a firewall in the radio router
or in his isp. You may find very few unencrypted links open.

Rogers, my isp who is discontinuing usenet, says:

"Customers with a continuing desire to read or post Usenet text
messages or who wish to access Usenet binary groups can subscribe to
third-party Usenet service providers such as Giganews (our supplier
up until the point when we discontinue Usenet) who offer a full
Usenet service on a paid basis: http://www.giganews.com/ "


Or, try
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bo...ec54d024283e03

http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.boats.cruising
works for free.

OK?

Terry K



Terry K

Hi, Terry, and thanks for the response, left below for context.

Well, yes, and I really detest webmail in all its flavors, but have used
google news when all else failed.

However, I don't know about the ability to do what the thread was about/had
morphed to, which is to download movies and music, in googlenews.

Mostly, I want to be able to use my editor rather than a web-based
interface, as I vastly prefer the threading and ability to dump stuff which
I've already read or don't care to read. While googlenews (I'm on google
mail, and my son works for them in Ireland, so I don't have any problem with
google per se) will thread, they also don't show me stuff which has come up
about older topics, unless I work back through it all to find, and I don't
much care for the presentation in general (lots of clutter not related to
the messages).

In my editor, it's just like my inbox - once I've read it (or marked it
such), those posts are hidden from me (though I can fetch them by altering
my "view" in the editor), so only the new stuff comes up. Thus, while, if I
were to go to googlenews, I'd get all the recent *new* posts, I'd not get
this, which is a followup to a much older thread. However, in my editor
(outlook express in my case), only this and a couple of others, new since I
last visited here earlier today, show.

Loved your story about being becalmed, by the way...

L8R

Skip, chewing on whether I want to spend $15/month to read newsgroups

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
...
Skip Gundlach wrote:
Hi, Larry, and group,

I apologize if we've covered this ground before, but...

If any have been following my quest to have wifi wherever I throw out the
hook, you'll know that I'm pretty close, leaving that part until I get
the other shoreside wrapups done first. However, if I'm surfing a
hotspot, I'm not subscribed to any newsgroups from that location.

Meanwhile, thanks for the very thorough tutorial in the other areas
needed (left below for latecomers)! But...

How do I do newsgroup subscriptions through a foreign (not native to my
machine, therefore, not keyed to a service they provide) ISP, unknown to
me (I wouldn't know the ISP, and even if I did, most likely it would be
keyed to whomever it was that provided the signal, which I would not
know)?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip, in dialup hell unless I'm on the boat, which will be some time in
the foreseeable future as rehab continues apace


Your borrowed, radio linked, localized user account, enabled by his isp,
may not offer usenet service, or a connection to the newsgroup server you
may want on usenet, gopher or whatever. But, usegroup news is still
available via other http://www.hypertext.services, google included,
usually in an inferior format, with colour pictures, ads, etc, at lower
speed than even dialup usenet. Once you have established an internet
connection, you may http to your hearts content, worldwide, unless blocked
by a firewall in the radio router or in his isp. You may find very few
unencrypted links open.

Rogers, my isp who is discontinuing usenet, says:

"Customers with a continuing desire to read or post Usenet text messages
or who wish to access Usenet binary groups can subscribe to third-party
Usenet service providers such as Giganews (our supplier up until the point
when we discontinue Usenet) who offer a full Usenet service on a paid
basis: http://www.giganews.com/ "


Or, try
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.bo...ec54d024283e03

http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.boats.cruising
works for free.

OK?

Terry K



Terry K

"Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at gmail dotcom wrote in news:b41d8$4398b56f
:

Skip, chewing on whether I want to spend $15/month to read newsgroups



They gots cheaper service with GB limits, Skip. $9.95 I think on UNS. $15
is a bargain if you only download a few movies from
alt.binaries.movies.divx for the boat...(c;