Bryan wrote:

Now I have to look up collets! Thanks.

http://www.cruisingoutfitters.com/kiwi.html

These are slick, but expensive. As I've said, you can do almost as
well with some dive weights.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:03:50 -0500, Jeff wrote:

Bryan wrote:

Now I have to look up collets! Thanks.

http://www.cruisingoutfitters.com/kiwi.html

These are slick, but expensive. As I've said, you can do almost as
well with some dive weights.

In the Pacific North West, downrigger balls are commonly used as much
less expensive kellets.

Jack

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Another modus I saw first hand is to take a coffee or pineapple juice,
better, can, cut off the top, pour lead into it, and sink a big figure-8 of
heavy SS wire into it to the V of the top circle.

Let it cool, cut off the can, and you have a very heavy, cheap, kellet...

L8R

Skip

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"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

Oh no!!!!! More lead poisoning!!! Gasp!!!
G

"Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at gmail dotcom wrote in message
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Another modus I saw first hand is to take a coffee or pineapple juice,
better, can, cut off the top, pour lead into it, and sink a big figure-8
of
heavy SS wire into it to the V of the top circle.

Let it cool, cut off the can, and you have a very heavy, cheap, kellet...

L8R

Skip

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Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

Actually, Gordon said he would like to get rid of 300 lbs in his bow!
Altho he does have 300 foot of 1/4" hi test chain.
Gordon


"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:
BTW, what kind of anchor do you use, and do you have a windlass?


The ground tackle is a Danforth anchor, 30 feet of chain, 250 feet of
nylon. No windlass. I aim for a 7:1 scope so 30 feet at high tide is
the
max depth I'll anchor in. At Catalina I aim for a spot with 20 feet
depth so I can let out more rode if needed. I'm a fair weather
anchorer,
so I'll be on a mooring if conditions aren't near perfect or I won't
go.
And you're right my most common anchorages are not textbook perfect. I
don't know where the idea of 300 feet of chain came from (but it
wouldn't
be on the boat I'm sailing).

Sorry, it is Gordon, who started this thread, that has 300 feet of
chain.

If I were using a Danforth on bottoms other than mud, I would double
anchor more often. I've learned by hard experience that the Danforth is
less than 100% perfect when resetting on wind/current shifts. I've
never
had a problem with a Delta, and I'd expect a Spade to do fine as well.
With two anchors this is not so much of a problem; I use a Fortress as
my
secondary.

I do anchor in sand and mud; I'm very limited in my alternate
opportunities
and the danforth is the common anchor on the boats I sail.

"Gordon" wrote in message
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Oh no!!!!! More lead poisoning!!! Gasp!!!
G


What were you going to make your kellets out of? And for that matter, your
fishing weights??

L8R

Skip, presuming you to be tongue-in-cheek, but not seeing any of the usual
indicators thereof...

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Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

Gordon wrote:
Actually, Gordon said he would like to get rid of 300 lbs in his
bow! Altho he does have 300 foot of 1/4" hi test chain.


Well then, the simple answer is to get rid of all that chain. But I'm
guessing you think you need it, so your options for balancing the boat
are to reposition the chain elsewhere, or to balance it by moving
other weight aft. Of course too much weight in the extremes increases
hobby horsing, but its hard to tell how much your boat is affected by
that.

In my case, my catamaran's performance would suffer from adding that
much weight, so I'm forced to use the "high tech, light weight"
approach to anchoring - Delta & Fortress anchors, mostly nylon rode.
For most situations, this is equal in holding power to the "brute
force" approach of all chain, usually attached to a large Bruce or CQR
anchor. Actually, on my previous boat, which didn't have a (good)
windlass, my anchoring got much better when I switched to lightweight
gear, because I was always sure when the anchor was well and truly
set, and I did not hesitate to haul the anchor if I was in any way
unhappy about the setup.

In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:27:28 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

Now I have to look up collets! Thanks.

================================

Try looking under kellet first.

http://www.johnsboatstuff.com/Articles/anchor.htm


Yeah, something like that. :-)

That's the article I saw a while ago. Thanks for the link!


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In article ,
Jack Dale wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:03:50 -0500, Jeff wrote:

Bryan wrote:

Now I have to look up collets! Thanks.

http://www.cruisingoutfitters.com/kiwi.html

These are slick, but expensive. As I've said, you can do almost as
well with some dive weights.

In the Pacific North West, downrigger balls are commonly used as much
less expensive kellets.

Like those for fishing? Do you have a link for them?

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But why go to the bother of cutting away the can?
A few uses and it should go away by itself.
BF


"Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach at gmail dotcom wrote in message
...
Another modus I saw first hand is to take a coffee or pineapple juice,
better, can, cut off the top, pour lead into it, and sink a big figure-8
of
heavy SS wire into it to the V of the top circle.

Let it cool, cut off the can, and you have a very heavy, cheap, kellet...

L8R

Skip

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain