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"Leanne" wrote in :

Do you duct tape his hat on now. It makes a real secure chin strap.

Leanne



Only in Beaufort....(c;

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Interesting. But in my opinion the reboarding device has to be
permanently mounted in such a way that a person in the water (as -
falling into the sea while boarding, a common event, even at the
dockside) can immediately swim round to it, drop the ladder and
climb back aboard.

JimB


We have a reboarding device hanging down from our marina dock. We almost
lost one of the drunk sailors one night.....

We were all sitting in a cabin drinking heavily listening to the usual
sea stories and other BS that fills the space between refills. One of
our "regulars" got up and left the boat to **** over the side of the
dock, hopefully not in someone's dingy.

Well, he was in worse condition than he thought. He fell over-the-side
of the dock between a couple of boats, dead drunk, with noone topside to
witness and save him as we were all drunk in the cabin, music blaring and
some young honey making us all drool, dreaming of the possibilities....

Noone really noticed his extended absence as he has been known to crawl
into his boat and bunk many times before, never even saying good night.

About an hour later, here he comes back aboard wearing clean clothes far
different from what he left with. We asked him what happened and he told
us of falling into the water, swimming drunk around to the boarding
platform of a transient's trawler on another dock, walking back to his
boat soaking wet....then changing his clothes to come back to the party
because we had more great vodka to drink up. Not until the next day did
the dock realize we could have lost him the previous night.

So, we installed a nice boarding ladder in his honor on the side of the
main dock centrally located so he wouldn't have to walk so far...(c;

We call it "Lloyd's Ladder"....(c;

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"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
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Barlows winches arrrrrrrrrrrrgh
I have scars across my eyebrow and forehead ( ~12 stitches) from a
Barlow that spun loose from the spindle.


Interestingly, the same thing happened to me on my next boat- a Barlow 16
came off the mast as I was tailing- missed me but bounced onto a solar panel
shattering it. Those winches I replaced.

Peter HK


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No, no duct tape. Just promises to "never do that again".

Don W.

Leanne wrote:
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m...

Okay, I almost posted this without prompting, but held off.

Turns out a gust blew his hat off, and he jumped in the water after


it...



Do you duct tape his hat on now. It makes a real secure chin strap.

Leanne



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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:35:40 -0000, in rec.boats.cruising you wrote:


A quick exit from cold water is the most important criterion. The
colder, the quicker the exit must be. For most marina and harbour
dunks, stern boarding is safe, and they're the most common events.
As many people have discovered, it's very difficult to board a
hard dinghy from the water.



I always carry a rope ladder with plastic rungs stored in a canvas bag with
the ladder fastened to the pushpit and a poly pull rope trailing with about
6' in the water from the stern. If push comes to shove I can pull on the
rope and get the ladder down for boarding. I also always wear a harness when
going forward. My one concern (other than being knocked unconscious) is that
if I go in the drink the harness could keep me so far forward that I
wouldn't be able to reach the pull rope.

My wife boat me one of those rope ladders with plastic rungs last year
because she was worried about me getting into the boat if I fell off. I
jumped over and tried it and it was extremely difficult to climb when
the boat was anchored and stable and I was just wearing a bathing suit.
We regard the ladder as junk. We are still trying to figure out a
better way. We do have a proper boarding ladder that extends a couple
feet into the water but it is heavy and sits in a locker when we are
sailing. I would like one of those custom jobs that flips down from the
pushpit ad drops deep into the water and doesn't push away when you step
on it. I am even thinking of having a step put in the trailing edge of
the rudder to facilitate reboarding.

Gaz


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Don W wrote in news:8MxDf.15438
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Just promises to "never do that again".


Yeah, I'd say he was in the water long enough, if he meant it...(c;

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:35:40 -0000, in rec.boats.cruising you wrote:


A quick exit from cold water is the most important criterion. The colder,
the quicker the exit must be. For most marina and harbour dunks, stern
boarding is safe, and they're the most common events. As many people have
discovered, it's very difficult to board a hard dinghy from the water.



I always carry a rope ladder with plastic rungs stored in a canvas bag
with
the ladder fastened to the pushpit and a poly pull rope trailing with
about
6' in the water from the stern. If push comes to shove I can pull on the
rope and get the ladder down for boarding. I also always wear a harness
when
going forward. My one concern (other than being knocked unconscious) is
that
if I go in the drink the harness could keep me so far forward that I
wouldn't be able to reach the pull rope.

My wife boat me one of those rope ladders with plastic rungs last year
because she was worried about me getting into the boat if I fell off. I
jumped over and tried it and it was extremely difficult to climb when the
boat was anchored and stable and I was just wearing a bathing suit. We
regard the ladder as junk. We are still trying to figure out a better
way. We do have a proper boarding ladder that extends a couple feet into
the water but it is heavy and sits in a locker when we are sailing. I
would like one of those custom jobs that flips down from the pushpit ad
drops deep into the water and doesn't push away when you step on it. I am
even thinking of having a step put in the trailing edge of the rudder to
facilitate reboarding.

Gaz


While sailing off the coast a few years ago on a CT 48 ketch. Lots of
freeboard. We had a rope ladder, but it was a huge pain to use... kept
getting fingers and toes squashed. The easiest way to get back aboard was to
wait for the boat to heel in your direction while it was drifting along and
rocking back and forth. You would just wait until the toerail was within
reach, then hold on and you would be vaulted on to the deck.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



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Gary wrote in news:5UxDf.375770$2k.201451
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My wife boat me one of those rope ladders with plastic rungs last year
because she was worried about me getting into the boat if I fell off.

I
jumped over and tried it and it was extremely difficult to climb when
the boat was anchored and stable and I was just wearing a bathing suit.
We regard the ladder as junk. We are still trying to figure out a
better way. We do have a proper boarding ladder that extends a couple
feet into the water but it is heavy and sits in a locker when we are
sailing. I would like one of those custom jobs that flips down from

the
pushpit ad drops deep into the water and doesn't push away when you

step
on it. I am even thinking of having a step put in the trailing edge of
the rudder to facilitate reboarding.



Of course, all these cures assume, wrongly, that the person in the water
is:
A) Awake and alert
B) Able to pull himself up and climb a ladder
c) Not hypothermic, which easily negates A) and B)

Next time you have the wife and kids out for a cruise, and have stopped
to let the boat drift in the tide, make believe she did get the boat
turned around, came near you and got the boat stopped quite close
(probably closer than is reality in an emergency).

Jump overboard and yell, "Unconcious Man Overboard!" Then, just lay
floating there in your PFD and see if the family can save you WITHOUT
your muscle power getting you back aboard.

Related Question: Is the wife and teenagers qualified in CPR recently?

How is she going to REVIVE you, if they manage to get your overweight
hulk back in the cockpit quickly enough.....Or, are you just going to lay
there until you die and they try to navigate home without you.

Can they navigate home without you?.....Or, will they die, too??

Hard questions require hard looking at family preparedness.....

After the successful completion of the CPR test in the cockpit. Tell her
and the kids to sail the boat back to the dock and simulate using the
radio to see if they know how....

Might save their lives, even if we can't save yours.....

Too many skippers play "Master and Commander" all the time and never just
turn it over to the rest of the family to qualify them.....

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Larry wrote:
Gary wrote in news:5UxDf.375770$2k.201451
@pd7tw1no:


My wife boat me one of those rope ladders with plastic rungs last year
because she was worried about me getting into the boat if I fell off.


I

jumped over and tried it and it was extremely difficult to climb when
the boat was anchored and stable and I was just wearing a bathing suit.
We regard the ladder as junk. We are still trying to figure out a
better way. We do have a proper boarding ladder that extends a couple
feet into the water but it is heavy and sits in a locker when we are
sailing. I would like one of those custom jobs that flips down from


the

pushpit ad drops deep into the water and doesn't push away when you


step

on it. I am even thinking of having a step put in the trailing edge of
the rudder to facilitate reboarding.




Of course, all these cures assume, wrongly, that the person in the water
is:
A) Awake and alert
B) Able to pull himself up and climb a ladder
c) Not hypothermic, which easily negates A) and B)

Next time you have the wife and kids out for a cruise, and have stopped
to let the boat drift in the tide, make believe she did get the boat
turned around, came near you and got the boat stopped quite close
(probably closer than is reality in an emergency).

Jump overboard and yell, "Unconcious Man Overboard!" Then, just lay
floating there in your PFD and see if the family can save you WITHOUT
your muscle power getting you back aboard.

Related Question: Is the wife and teenagers qualified in CPR recently?

How is she going to REVIVE you, if they manage to get your overweight
hulk back in the cockpit quickly enough.....Or, are you just going to lay
there until you die and they try to navigate home without you.

Can they navigate home without you?.....Or, will they die, too??

Hard questions require hard looking at family preparedness.....

After the successful completion of the CPR test in the cockpit. Tell her
and the kids to sail the boat back to the dock and simulate using the
radio to see if they know how....

Might save their lives, even if we can't save yours.....

Too many skippers play "Master and Commander" all the time and never just
turn it over to the rest of the family to qualify them.....

To hell with it. Lets sell the boat and stay in the house.
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Gary wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:35:40 -0000, in rec.boats.cruising you wrote:


A quick exit from cold water is the most important criterion. The
colder, the quicker the exit must be. For most marina and harbour
dunks, stern boarding is safe, and they're the most common events. As
many people have discovered, it's very difficult to board a hard
dinghy from the water.




I always carry a rope ladder with plastic rungs stored in a canvas bag
with
the ladder fastened to the pushpit and a poly pull rope trailing with
about
6' in the water from the stern. If push comes to shove I can pull on the
rope and get the ladder down for boarding. I also always wear a
harness when
going forward. My one concern (other than being knocked unconscious)
is that
if I go in the drink the harness could keep me so far forward that I
wouldn't be able to reach the pull rope.

My wife boat me one of those rope ladders with plastic rungs last year
because she was worried about me getting into the boat if I fell off. I
jumped over and tried it and it was extremely difficult to climb when
the boat was anchored and stable and I was just wearing a bathing suit.
We regard the ladder as junk. We are still trying to figure out a
better way. We do have a proper boarding ladder that extends a couple
feet into the water but it is heavy and sits in a locker when we are
sailing. I would like one of those custom jobs that flips down from the
pushpit ad drops deep into the water and doesn't push away when you step
on it. I am even thinking of having a step put in the trailing edge of
the rudder to facilitate reboarding.

Gaz


Something like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/Hpim0200.jpg
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