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Hi All.
Years ago I worked on Japanese and Korean boats in the Bering Sea. Most everyone had a personal "stash" of air dried cod, squid, and other sea monsters hanging like wind chimes in out of the way corners. I was a bit apprehensive to eat the stuff at first but a few sakes or soju bolstered my courage. After a few months, chewing on a three week air dried squid was actually pretty good. the problem is I never got to the How - To details. So here is the qustion: Anybody ever string a bunch of dead fish in your rig while cruising? My concern is that the warmer weather might encouage bad bacteria growth. Any ideas? Bob |
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![]() Mys Terry wrote: The dried fish I'm familiar with was also salted. Mys Terry Hi, Salted then air dried? What I saw with the Koreans was a simple head and gut, rinse with sea water, split, then hang. The lack of salting PLUS warm weather is what has me spooked. Suggestions? Bob |
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We marinate in vinegar and spice (to taste). We make small bits (since
they are usually the parts we peel off the bone after filleting they come that way) put 'em in a tupper with vinegar and make sure that that all the surfaces have contact with the marinade. Then we dry them on a bit of old SS plate when it looks like we'll have at least half a day without rain. They keep a good long while in the marinade so you can wait. Makes great snacks and hasn't killed us yet -- but I suspect the FDA wouldn't go for it... -- Tom. |
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:25:26 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote: The technique is as follows: * Gut and bone the fish. * Discard the heads, but leave the skins and tails on. * Place the fish in a sal****er brine for three weeks, -------snip---------- Do you use (clean) seawater or drinkingwater with salt added? Do you refresh the brine every x days? Tia, Len. |
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Down in the Spanish Main, when we aren't raping and pillaging, we like our
cod dried and pickled. For a special treat, take a long leak on the dried fish before eating. Then roll them in tung. As you swallow; say AH AH ,,,, Arrh. This is Pirate speech for "this is good dried, ****ed on , rolled in dung, fish". If you see our ship "The Jolly Listerine" give us a holla. When we get done raping and pillaging we will share some cod. ================================================== =============================== "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Hi All. Years ago I worked on Japanese and Korean boats in the Bering Sea. Most everyone had a personal "stash" of air dried cod, squid, and other sea monsters hanging like wind chimes in out of the way corners. I was a bit apprehensive to eat the stuff at first but a few sakes or soju bolstered my courage. After a few months, chewing on a three week air dried squid was actually pretty good. the problem is I never got to the How - To details. So here is the qustion: Anybody ever string a bunch of dead fish in your rig while cruising? My concern is that the warmer weather might encouage bad bacteria growth. Any ideas? Bob |
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![]() Lars Johansson wrote: In the Nordic countries (at least Sweden and Norway), we have a long tradition of airdrying fish. Mostly white fish like cod. The fish is gutted and boned like Len describes but not salted. Is is held open and flat with sliver of wood and dried on wooden racks on the cliffs. (Nowadays indoors.) But is is not consumed dried. It is soaked in lye for several weeks, then rinsed many times and finally boiled. Nowadays a Christmas dish, earlier a a part of the everyday diet. Earlier the dried fish was exported to the rest of Europe. /Lars J Hi Lars: Thanks for the suggestions. H&G butterfly, skin on, tail on, pin in. So it sounds like either salt or lye. What does the lye do? Kill everything?Remove moisture? Clean your pipes?!?! As far as Thomas' idea reagarding Leaks.............. I think green onions or scallions wojld work also. In Cod We Trust Bob |
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Thanks for the suggestions. H&G butterfly, skin on, tail on, pin in.
So it sounds like either salt or lye. What does the lye do? Kill everything?Remove moisture? Clean your pipes?!?! As far as Thomas' idea reagarding Leaks.............. I think green onions or scallions wojld work also. In Cod We Trust i bet it would be ok, drying the fish and eating them. i wouldn't use the salt or lye because i don't like salty food or alkaline tastes, but if you didn't think drying was enough then vinegar might be ok, i like acid tastes more and they are easier to cook with in my opinion. but then i'm from the mountains and i really like pickled beat eggs too. haha. but i would just dry the fish, myself, and not put them in anything else. we in the states act like this is some forgotten magic and buy special dehydrators even to make venison jerky, but it's pretty low tech and simple to do that kind of thing. here are problems i imagine in my own mind ... sea birds near land swooping down to take the fish from your rigging ... and having to take all those fish out of the rigging when a squall comes up. but other than that, seems like a great idea to me! ![]() group of birds could empty your rigging before you even had a chance to figure out what was going on! lol how do you catch them to begin with, drag a net in your wake ? if it was some big fish you got lucky enough to catch i would think it would have to be cut pretty thin to dry in any reasonable amount of time. |
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![]() "Lars Johansson" wrote in message news:dtc5g6 In the Nordic countries (at least Sweden and Norway), we have a long tradition of airdrying fish. Mostly white fish like cod. The fish is gutted and boned like Len describes but not salted. Is is held open and flat with sliver of wood and dried on wooden racks on the cliffs. (Nowadays indoors.) But is is not consumed dried. It is soaked in lye for several weeks, then rinsed many times and finally boiled. What chemical is lye? JimB |
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News f2s wrote:
It is soaked in lye for several weeks, then rinsed many times and finally boiled. What chemical is lye? i don't know, but it's a base/alkaline. it might be sodium hydroxide. same principle as soaking something in acid, except as a base ... the goal being to make an unhealthy environment for bacteria to grow in, one that they don't like. bacteria don't like dryness (drying or smoking), alkaline/acids (pickling), too much salt (salting), radiation, too much heat (cooking/canning), cold (freezing), too much sugar (candying), etc. |
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"ps" == purple stars writes:
ps News f2s wrote: It is soaked in lye for several weeks, then rinsed many times and finally boiled. What chemical is lye? ps i don't know, but it's a base/alkaline. it might be sodium hydroxide. ps same principle as soaking something in acid, except as a base ... the ps goal being to make an unhealthy environment for bacteria to grow in, ps one that they don't like. bacteria don't like dryness (drying or ps smoking), alkaline/acids (pickling), too much salt (salting), ps radiation, too much heat (cooking/canning), cold (freezing), too much ps sugar (candying), etc. But the purpose in this case is not preservation, the drying has already taken care of that. The purpose is to aid in the rehydration, at the same time transmogrifying the fish into something which I refuse to eat. -- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade. |
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