"Wayne.B" wrote


A friend cares about you, but the sea is indifferent.

I think the sea will be particularly indifferent to this fellow since
I can see no evidence that he will ever have a boat to go on it. Have
you noticed how increasingly off the wall and emotional his posts have
gotten since he first showed up here asking some apparently reasonable
questions about looking for a boat?

I offered him some help in a personal email with no response and I get
these bitter attacks based on his inability to read my posts carefully
enough to see that I'm not saying what he accuses me of at all. (What
do I know? Well, while I'm just getting involved with the details of
small yachts again after several decades, large institutions pay me to
advised them on the procurement of millon dollar plus vessels.)

Too bad, something made me want to help this guy early on but my next
keyclicks after this post will be to killfile him.

--

Roger Long

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Roger, if boat licensing ever comes to my sailing grounds, I am leaving the
USA. I've about had it with this F'n country as it is ,,,, this will just
be the last straw.

The USA .. can't control the millions of illegals who have invaded us ..
gives away millions of dollars to some stinking pit like Iraq,,,, we are
fighting wars in 2 or 3 countries ,, we are being taxed off the planet ,,,
can't buy a house because it cost too much ,,, our public schools suck ,,,,
the politicians are corrupt ...

And now you want to give some fat, dumb, related to the politician,,,
asshole the right to stop me on the high seas so he can decide if I'm
worthy?


That is it for me ... you won't be seeing me in the USA ... good bye.


One good thing about the world,,, lots of water...


I hope your happy.. Communist.


Anyone care?

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Roger ,, are you a Communist? What part of "leave me, my boat, my life, my
life on the water" out of your socialist ideas don't you get?

A fee isn't a tax? Sure,,, no, it is a fee. Are you truly so nuts as
this?

The reason we, me, us, go sailing is to get away from authority. To be
FREE. Let the wind drive us forward, the sea our friend ....

But that isn't good enough for you ,, nope. You want to ruin sailing.



Actually good sensible sailors want & need some kind of minimal
protection from irresponsible, don't tell me what to do, type of
boaters. Without rules and regulations and an authority to enforce same,
chaos would take over.
Not the type of environment I'd want to take my family sailing in.

Oh,, you mean like the roads in the USA,,, is that the kind of environment
you are talking about?

Drunk drivers, people who have no licenses, illegals driving all over and
they don't care it they kill you ..no insurance in Mexico..

And you want to bring that to the local ocean?

Are you F'n nuts?

================================================== ========================
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Roger ,, are you a Communist? What part of "leave me, my boat, my life,
my life on the water" out of your socialist ideas don't you get?

A fee isn't a tax? Sure,,, no, it is a fee. Are you truly so nuts as
this?

The reason we, me, us, go sailing is to get away from authority. To be
FREE. Let the wind drive us forward, the sea our friend ....

But that isn't good enough for you ,, nope. You want to ruin sailing.



Actually good sensible sailors want & need some kind of minimal protection
from irresponsible, don't tell me what to do, type of boaters. Without
rules and regulations and an authority to enforce same, chaos would take
over.
Not the type of environment I'd want to take my family sailing in.

Roger ,, why do you want to ruin sailing? Why are you looking to the
"government" all the time? Can't you take care of yourself? Are you some
type of lame ass?

Don't you see what the program you want will lead too? Can't you see the
mess the US Government is in? Do you want some government hack telling you
when you can go sailing?

What on earth is in your head?


I can't believe any sailor would want the government for anything? Take
care of yourself. If you act irrisponsible and die,, good.

The last think on earth any sailor needs is the government telling him/her
when he/she can go out on the ocean.

Bad weather ,,,, big stop sign at the end of the harbor...

Big wind .... Uncle Sam says you can't go out today...

What are you thinking?

I thought you were a sailor?// act and think like one..


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"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
"Wayne.B" wrote


A friend cares about you, but the sea is indifferent.

I think the sea will be particularly indifferent to this fellow since I
can see no evidence that he will ever have a boat to go on it. Have you
noticed how increasingly off the wall and emotional his posts have gotten
since he first showed up here asking some apparently reasonable questions
about looking for a boat?

I offered him some help in a personal email with no response and I get
these bitter attacks based on his inability to read my posts carefully
enough to see that I'm not saying what he accuses me of at all. (What do
I know? Well, while I'm just getting involved with the details of small
yachts again after several decades, large institutions pay me to advised
them on the procurement of millon dollar plus vessels.)

Too bad, something made me want to help this guy early on but my next
keyclicks after this post will be to killfile him.

--

Roger Long

YOu can't take away rights like that. The bottom line is that when you
go out to sea you are at risk. If you can't handle it you better not
go. I don't like it either. Wilma found the boat next to me and ripped
its roof off and knocked down a very high priced rig that I can not
afford to buy new again. There is no way for me to get the owner to pay
though it is his fault since he did NOTHING to protect from this while
a major cane was coming. I am going to end up with a standard rig and
at the cost of about 10K to me. It sucks but not as much as more rules.

Life goes on and my mast will be back on my boat in another 6 weeks or
less. Its been costly and my boat has been ill since oct. 25 2005 but
still I love sailing and the freedom of the oceans - the last freedom.

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Why are you looking to the
"government" all the time? Can't you take care of yourself? Are you some
type of lame ass?


Hi All:
I thinkI have probable spent enough time on this one.

Thomas W. Try the folloing discusion group. You may find a more willing
audience.
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

Bob
Volunteer Instructor, Oregon Manditory Boater Education Prgram
(Why volunteer?)

Oh I see ,,, like the Border Patrol!

Or the Drug Enforcement Authority?

How dumb of me ,, of course..

======================

I always thought sailors were self sufficient ,, people who set out on the
ocean for adventure ,, risk takers ,,,

Not on this newsgroup.. nope... the government loving, uncle sam will save
me crowd is here..

What a bunch of losers. And to think I actually thought some of you might
be worth a tally ho...

I would not want you near my boat. A bunch of cry babies, you need the
government to tell you what to do, when to do it, and you even want a
license!

You make me sick!


Sailors? That is a joke... most of you government will save me liberal
weenies aren't deserving of the term.

===================

Roger Long ,,, ya. Long winded. If his boat ever gets wet he can call
uncle sam..... please come and save me,,, my boat is dirty ,,,,, what do I
do ,,,,, help me ,,, help me ,,,,

I'm shipping out ... leaving the port.....

The water here is polluted.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
"and an authority to enforce same,"
above quote lifted from my previous reply might cover that.


Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Oh,, you mean like the roads in the USA,,, is that the kind of
environment you are talking about?

Drunk drivers, people who have no licenses, illegals driving all over and
they don't care it they kill you ..no insurance in Mexico..

And you want to bring that to the local ocean?

Are you F'n nuts?

================================================== ========================
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Thomas Wentworth wrote:

Roger ,, are you a Communist? What part of "leave me, my boat, my life,
my life on the water" out of your socialist ideas don't you get?

A fee isn't a tax? Sure,,, no, it is a fee. Are you truly so nuts as
this?

The reason we, me, us, go sailing is to get away from authority. To be
FREE. Let the wind drive us forward, the sea our friend ....

But that isn't good enough for you ,, nope. You want to ruin sailing.



Actually good sensible sailors want & need some kind of minimal
protection from irresponsible, don't tell me what to do, type of boaters.
Without rules and regulations *and an authority to enforce same*, chaos
would take over.
Not the type of environment I'd want to take my family sailing in.

Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Oh I see ,,, like the Border Patrol!

Or the Drug Enforcement Authority?

How dumb of me ,, of course..

======================

I always thought sailors were self sufficient ,, people who set out on the
ocean for adventure ,, risk takers ,,,

Not on this newsgroup.. nope... the government loving, uncle sam will save
me crowd is here..

What a bunch of losers. And to think I actually thought some of you might
be worth a tally ho...

I would not want you near my boat. A bunch of cry babies, you need the
government to tell you what to do, when to do it, and you even want a
license!

You make me sick!


Sailors? That is a joke... most of you government will save me liberal
weenies aren't deserving of the term.


Yea yea! And you'd be the first one crying his eyes out for the Coast
Guard to save you when (not if) you get into trouble a couple miles
offshore.

Dear Don, I would not call the Coast Guard or any Guard ... I take care of
myself.

I will say, at least the Coast Guard is professional at what they do.. they
aren't a bunch of "hacks" who got the job because they gave money to some
corrupt politician.

================
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Thomas Wentworth wrote:
Oh I see ,,, like the Border Patrol!

Or the Drug Enforcement Authority?

How dumb of me ,, of course..

======================

I always thought sailors were self sufficient ,, people who set out on
the ocean for adventure ,, risk takers ,,,

Not on this newsgroup.. nope... the government loving, uncle sam will
save me crowd is here..

What a bunch of losers. And to think I actually thought some of you
might be worth a tally ho...

I would not want you near my boat. A bunch of cry babies, you need the
government to tell you what to do, when to do it, and you even want a
license!

You make me sick!


Sailors? That is a joke... most of you government will save me liberal
weenies aren't deserving of the term.


Yea yea! And you'd be the first one crying his eyes out for the Coast
Guard to save you when (not if) you get into trouble a couple miles
offshore.