More and more I see CE classification affixed on sailboat specifications

Larger boat tend to be rated as A and other B,C and D.

Does A means that the sailboat is building to withstand the rigor of long
passage or does it mean that it has more stowage space?

Other sailboats have "Lloyd certification"

wrote:
More and more I see CE classification affixed on sailboat
specifications

Larger boat tend to be rated as A and other B,C and D.

Does A means that the sailboat is building to withstand the rigor of
long passage or does it mean that it has more stowage space?

Other sailboats have "Lloyd certification"

It's a European Directive which means very little in practical terms.

On 2006-04-08 13:26:45 -0400, "Dennis Pogson"
said:

wrote:
More and more I see CE classification affixed on sailboat
specifications

Larger boat tend to be rated as A and other B,C and D.

Does A means that the sailboat is building to withstand the rigor of
long passage or does it mean that it has more stowage space?

Other sailboats have "Lloyd certification"

It's a European Directive which means very little in practical terms.

It does have a bit to do with where the boats are approved for use at.

A) is Ocean rated, and means that the boat should be capable of
bluewater passages.
B) is Offshore use, but not qualified for bluewater passages
C) is Inshore use, meant for protected bays, coastal cruising, etc.
D) is Protected waters use only.

A link of interest is http://www.rbbi.com/folders/cemark/rmnart.htm

It does have a bit to do with where the boats are approved for use at.

Approved by bureaucrats in Brussels who's primary interest is in
protecting the boat building industry Western Europe. Duffers
shouldn't take boats off shore; if not duffers they'll be able to
judge the risks they take for themselves.

-- Tom.

A - "Ocean" exceeding F8 and exceeding 4m significant wave height
B - "Offshore" up to, and including, F8 and up to, and including, 4m
waves
C - "Inshore" up to, and including, F6 up to, and including, 2m waves
D - "Sheltered waters" up to, and including, F4 up to, and including,
0,3m waves with odd wave to 0.5m.

Recreational Craft Directives applies to 2.5m - 24m sports and pleasure
vessels sold within EU, with some exclusions - for example replicas of
craft designed pre 1950. Pulls together a load of ISO standards
covering all aspects of vessel design and construction.

No more bureaucratic than ABYC/USCG standards and used by US boat
builders who want to market in Europe.

Lloyds standards, or indeed any other Bureau standards, are acceptable.

wrote:
Dog - You might think is is bureaucratic and no doubt the bureacrats
have got carried away but no more so than in the litigatious old
colony. If you read the ISO standards, most of them are "common dog"
and you would not really want to be in a new vessel that does not
comply. Although my new 22m steel vessel is exempted - pre 1950
design - I am following the ISO standards - and ABYC where
appropriate.

The CE rating is a type classification and does not reflect the quality of
the workmanship in an individual item. Knickers can be CE rated, but if the
elastic breaks and they fall to the ground, you cannot sue Brussels.

DP

As many responders have stated, the CE seal only indicates that there is a
certificate of compliance for this product. The buyer may request at
purchase time a copy of the certificate. On that certificate will be stated
the ISO standard(s) that have been complied with and the certified testing
laboratory that did the tests. All products being sold in the EU now must be
in compliance with the appropriate ISO standards. The CE rating may be
requested either by the manufacturer or the importer. These tests are
comprehensive and in most cases deal with safety. I am an American and I
guarantee the readers here that these tests and standards are good and
applicable. They are not BS. In many cases they are better than the American
equivalents. As an example, the FCC tests are for interference generation
only. The CE tests include generation and susceptibility as well. From a
consumer's perspective, the regulation is a plus, certainly not a minus.
Incidentally, CE seals are not required for used equipment, only new.
Steve

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More and more I see CE classification affixed on sailboat specifications

Larger boat tend to be rated as A and other B,C and D.

Does A means that the sailboat is building to withstand the rigor of long
passage or does it mean that it has more stowage space?

Other sailboats have "Lloyd certification"