Group,

I am new to this group and wanted to intro at the beginning of this
boating season. There are many hidden water hazards out there so this
is just a note to remind you to be careful, keep the "recreational
mind set" under control.

I have recently formed the group that is known by it's acronym, SAFER
BOATING. That said, the organization is properly named Safe,
Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Recreational (SAFER) Boating. The
purpose of this organization is to establish appropriate, economical
but much needed higher standards for all Recreational Watercraft. In
short, eventually if the watercraft has not been inspected and
certified by SAFER, we will not consider it a safe vessel. This
organization will not be a "front" group for boating and boat
accessory or after market boating products.

The web site is under construction, accessible by the end of fall. In
the interim we invite you to participate in our newly established
discussion group on goggle, under the groups heading under this
organizations name in the recreational category. We are currently
focused on "Propeller Strikes" but we will pursue other areas of
SAFER BOATING in the near future. The only other injury we have ever
seen that is as grotesque and disfiguring as well as life altering,
almost always ending in death, is a full body burn or war injury.
Propeller Strike injuries are so easily preventable for a minimum
amount of money.

I lobby for the reform of recreational boating when I am in my
Washington DC office each month. I need additional information about
any tragic boating event. Thus if you see one, know of one or are
involved in one, please let me know. Better yet, if you happen to have
caught the incident on film or video, please forward and with your
permission I will post on the web site after it comes up. We are also
interested in capturing film or video of boaters that are operating
or allowing unsafe activities happen within their zone of operation.
Even Recreational Boating, the last frontier of unregulated personal
activity (or so it is claimed) should remain fun....but safe as well. I
know many will disagree, but you can be safe and still have fun
boating...and that is what this is all about...SAFER BOATING!

The information provided would assist greatly when continuing efforts
are made to convince the federal regulatory agency and the congress
that something must be done to prevent exposed propeller strikes as
well as other necessary reforms in boating.

I am also a Legal Investigator with operations out of Dana Point, Ca
92629 as well. As an investigator I have witnessed the tragic
consequences and detailed the evidence in boating accidents. The
carnage, if unable to be eliminated must be dramatically mitigated in
the next few years.

If you have already become involved in a tragic boating accident and If
legal counsel represents you, please advise him/her of this contact. If
litigation is planned or in fact proceeding, we will welcome his/her
contact; indeed we might have information that will be helpful to the
litigation. They are welcome to contact me via email or through my web
site as indicated, rhtownsend.com. Please advise if counsel does not
represent you as well. I hope that you will feel free to contact me. I
will be available to answer any of your questions as directly and
honestly as I can.

Very truly yours,


RobertTownsend,CLI

I am new to this group and wanted to intro at the beginning of this
boating season.

So you start by spamming the group promoting your lobbying? Not a good
idea.

Be honest, what axes are you looking to grind with this "effort"? Whose
child/spouse/relative got themselves killed by being an idiot and those left
behind are now chanting for reform?

Call me mean, cynical or whatever but I find it rather unlikely this is
actually about 'safe boating'.

I lobby for the reform of recreational boating when I am in my
Washington DC office each month.

Were is a summary of these proposed reforms posted online?

I need additional information about
any tragic boating event.

Why on earth would we help you LOAD the gun aimed at boaters? No thanks.

The information provided would assist greatly when continuing efforts
are made to convince the federal regulatory agency and the congress
that something must be done to prevent exposed propeller strikes as
well as other necessary reforms in boating.

And what you have "done" to reform this? I daresay in these days of
skyrocketing fuel expenses you're going to get NO sympathy by talking about
things that restrict effective propeller action. Here's a tip, stay out of
the water when there's something with a prop nearby.

Otherwise, go back to peddling influence and stay out of newsgroups.

I read that post and said, "Hoo boy! Does this poor fellow have a clue
what is about to happen to him in this newsgroup?" Sure enough Dave,
you didn't disappoint.

I'm not quite sure what congress can do to make boating safer except
to make is so expensive that no one can do it. That would certainly
save lives.

I'm not quite sure what this fellow's agenda is but it looks like
banning outboards, and conventional inboards might address the one
specific issue he raises. The jet manufacturers will probably be
lining up to support this organization, if indeed it is more than just
a web site and a wet dream.

--

Roger Long



"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2006 09:13:59 -0700, "RT" said:

If you have already become involved in a tragic boating accident and
If
legal counsel represents you, please advise him/her of this contact.
If
litigation is planned or in fact proceeding, we will welcome his/her
contact; indeed we might have information that will be helpful to
the
litigation.

Great. Another Washington based adjunct to the trial lawyers'
litigation
scam. Not doubt they'll give you lots of money to lend credibility
to their
phony suits. Maybe you can even hire some of the same MDs who claim
to have
read the X-rays of thousands and thousands of people who they say
have both
asbestosis and silicosis even though such a combination of ailments
is about
as scarce as hens' teeth in the real world.

Reagan warned us to beware those who say, "I'm from the government and I'm
here to help you."

Let us beware those who say, "I *lobby* the government and I'm here to help
you."

I lobby for the reform of recreational boating when I am in my
Washington DC office each month
============================

That's just what we need ,,, another F&^*&*((n BUREAUCRAT ...

PLEASE GO AWAY ,,,,,, JUMP OFF A BRIDGE ,,,,,

IF I SEE YOU ON THE WATER I WILL DO MY BEST TO SINK YOUR BOAT ....

RIGHT NOW I AM BUILDING A TORPEDO IN MY CELLAR ,,,

MY WEB SITE IS ;;;;;;

WWW.. TAB .............. STANDS FOR "TORPEDO ASSHOLE BUREAUCRATS" AND MAKE
THE WATERS THINNER FOR THE REST OF US...




"RT" wrote in message
ups.com...
Group,

I am new to this group and wanted to intro at the beginning of this
boating season. There are many hidden water hazards out there so this
is just a note to remind you to be careful, keep the "recreational
mind set" under control.

I have recently formed the group that is known by it's acronym, SAFER
BOATING. That said, the organization is properly named Safe,
Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Recreational (SAFER) Boating. The
purpose of this organization is to establish appropriate, economical
but much needed higher standards for all Recreational Watercraft. In
short, eventually if the watercraft has not been inspected and
certified by SAFER, we will not consider it a safe vessel. This
organization will not be a "front" group for boating and boat
accessory or after market boating products.

The web site is under construction, accessible by the end of fall. In
the interim we invite you to participate in our newly established
discussion group on goggle, under the groups heading under this
organizations name in the recreational category. We are currently
focused on "Propeller Strikes" but we will pursue other areas of
SAFER BOATING in the near future. The only other injury we have ever
seen that is as grotesque and disfiguring as well as life altering,
almost always ending in death, is a full body burn or war injury.
Propeller Strike injuries are so easily preventable for a minimum
amount of money.

I lobby for the reform of recreational boating when I am in my
Washington DC office each month. I need additional information about
any tragic boating event. Thus if you see one, know of one or are
involved in one, please let me know. Better yet, if you happen to have
caught the incident on film or video, please forward and with your
permission I will post on the web site after it comes up. We are also
interested in capturing film or video of boaters that are operating
or allowing unsafe activities happen within their zone of operation.
Even Recreational Boating, the last frontier of unregulated personal
activity (or so it is claimed) should remain fun....but safe as well. I
know many will disagree, but you can be safe and still have fun
boating...and that is what this is all about...SAFER BOATING!

The information provided would assist greatly when continuing efforts
are made to convince the federal regulatory agency and the congress
that something must be done to prevent exposed propeller strikes as
well as other necessary reforms in boating.

I am also a Legal Investigator with operations out of Dana Point, Ca
92629 as well. As an investigator I have witnessed the tragic
consequences and detailed the evidence in boating accidents. The
carnage, if unable to be eliminated must be dramatically mitigated in
the next few years.

If you have already become involved in a tragic boating accident and If
legal counsel represents you, please advise him/her of this contact. If
litigation is planned or in fact proceeding, we will welcome his/her
contact; indeed we might have information that will be helpful to the
litigation. They are welcome to contact me via email or through my web
site as indicated, rhtownsend.com. Please advise if counsel does not
represent you as well. I hope that you will feel free to contact me. I
will be available to answer any of your questions as directly and
honestly as I can.

Very truly yours,


RobertTownsend,CLI

Oh ,,,, Rogeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ....... Oh
Rogeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Do you see what the Washington bureaucrats want to do with all your license
ideas?


How do you say .................... Trial Lawyers .

And law suits!

And then, just like the old airplane you had to give up flying
,,,,,,,,,,,,,, your boat will be a monument to the corrupt USA Government.

And you want this kind of stuff for us sailors?


Roggggggggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
......

Rooooooooooooooooogggggggggggggggggggggggggggeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Wake up!



=============
"Roger Long" wrote in message
news
I read that post and said, "Hoo boy! Does this poor fellow have a clue what
is about to happen to him in this newsgroup?" Sure enough Dave, you didn't
disappoint.

I'm not quite sure what congress can do to make boating safer except to
make is so expensive that no one can do it. That would certainly save
lives.

I'm not quite sure what this fellow's agenda is but it looks like banning
outboards, and conventional inboards might address the one specific issue
he raises. The jet manufacturers will probably be lining up to support
this organization, if indeed it is more than just a web site and a wet
dream.

--

Roger Long



"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 26 Apr 2006 09:13:59 -0700, "RT" said:

If you have already become involved in a tragic boating accident and If
legal counsel represents you, please advise him/her of this contact. If
litigation is planned or in fact proceeding, we will welcome his/her
contact; indeed we might have information that will be helpful to the
litigation.

Great. Another Washington based adjunct to the trial lawyers' litigation
scam. Not doubt they'll give you lots of money to lend credibility to
their
phony suits. Maybe you can even hire some of the same MDs who claim to
have
read the X-rays of thousands and thousands of people who they say have
both
asbestosis and silicosis even though such a combination of ailments is
about
as scarce as hens' teeth in the real world.