The other side of my slip was just rented and I now don't have AC
power because the powerboat next to me has two shore power cords
plugged in. I spoke to the marina weeks ago and they assured me they
would take care of it because he's only paying for one outlet. Either
they didn't or he's not listening. The boat has been dark with no
sign of activity for nearly a month now.

Before I just unplug one of his cords, which appears to be the only
path to resolution, I'd appreciate knowing how these dual systems are
usually set up. Is there a split bus so that some things on the boat
will stop working or will he just have less amperage available?
Although I'll unplug him at the boat as well, I'd like to know for
general curiosity whether there is any back feed from the unused inlet
plug.

Is there any possible harm (other than a testosterone fueled territory
incident) from simply coiling up one of these cords with a nice note
that there are only so many plugs?

--

Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in news:TRowg.3951$1Z5.1739
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Although I'll unplug him at the boat as well, I'd like to know for
general curiosity whether there is any back feed from the unused inlet
plug.

Is there any possible harm (other than a testosterone fueled territory
incident) from simply coiling up one of these cords with a nice note
that there are only so many plugs?


Most boats, here at least, with two cables have one powering the boat's
original power panel and the other powering the air conditioner,
separately. This is done so you can sidle up to a dock that only has 30A
outlets for your 60A load. 30A not being enough to run the fridge, hot
water tank and still have enough left to crank the unforgiving cheap marine
air conditioner's cheap compressor noone thought to put an easy-start kit
into. Unplugging one of them simply spoils all the food left in the
fridge. Unplugging the other one stops the air conditioner and leaves the
boat smelling like a swamp from the amazingly complex biologicals growing
in the bilge water...(c;



--
When you come up to the checkout, ask someone if they saw
the INS agents carrying off 3 people from the store...
See how many illegals you can get to abandon their carts...
moving YOU up in line....(c;

You may be neigborgh for a short time or a long and bad time.

In my opinion the on us is on the marina management. They have accepted a
fee for the slip and electrical power supply. In return they have an
obligation to deliver. They have to take all necessary action to meet their
contractual obligations. Normally the club or marina makes sure that the
boat owner has pay for the electrical hook up and ensures that it will not
overload their distribution system.

Did you talk to the owner of the power boat. Even if it cost you a long
distance you should first talk to the owner.

Some people have ice making machine on board and other equipment running.
When they get back to their boat they expect to have ice for their drinks.
The power boat culture is not like the sailboat society. They can rock your
sailboat with a big wake and wave their hands at you with a smile


"Roger Long" wrote in message
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The other side of my slip was just rented and I now don't have AC power
because the powerboat next to me has two shore power cords plugged in. I
spoke to the marina weeks ago and they assured me they would take care of
it because he's only paying for one outlet. Either they didn't or he's
not listening. The boat has been dark with no sign of activity for nearly
a month now.

Before I just unplug one of his cords, which appears to be the only path
to resolution, I'd appreciate knowing how these dual systems are usually
set up. Is there a split bus so that some things on the boat will stop
working or will he just have less amperage available? Although I'll unplug
him at the boat as well, I'd like to know for general curiosity whether
there is any back feed from the unused inlet plug.

Is there any possible harm (other than a testosterone fueled territory
incident) from simply coiling up one of these cords with a nice note that
there are only so many plugs?

--

Roger Long

Gezie gee chrisis gehosephat, Batman!

I thought I'd do this guy the favor of checking out "Y" adapters so I
can tell him just what to buy.

FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS! What in the name of all that's crazy is Marinco
thinking.

--

Roger Long

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:28:35 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

The other side of my slip was just rented and I now don't have AC
power because the powerboat next to me has two shore power cords
plugged in. I spoke to the marina weeks ago and they assured me they
would take care of it because he's only paying for one outlet. Either
they didn't or he's not listening. The boat has been dark with no
sign of activity for nearly a month now.

Before I just unplug one of his cords, which appears to be the only
path to resolution, I'd appreciate knowing how these dual systems are
usually set up. Is there a split bus so that some things on the boat
will stop working or will he just have less amperage available?
Although I'll unplug him at the boat as well, I'd like to know for
general curiosity whether there is any back feed from the unused inlet
plug.

According to the ABYC standards, there should be no electrical
connection between his two power inlets.


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"Peter Bennett" wrote

According to the ABYC standards, there should be no electrical
connection between his two power inlets.

My BlueSea dual 30A AC panel has slides that prevent combining the busses if
both source breakers are on. A Y adapter does essentially the same thing.
The current is split between two conductors but there is only one source
from dock side. The risk is that if he is running his A/C, refer, battery
charger and water heater at the same time the dock pedestal breaker is going
to blow.

I agree though that this is the marina operator's problem and somebody needs
to stay on him until he resolves it.

--
Glenn Ashmore

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there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote

The risk is that if he is running his A/C, refer, battery charger
and water heater at the same time the dock pedestal breaker is going
to blow.

As near as I can tell, he isn't running anything; certainly not the
engines. The boat's just been sitting there dark for weeks.


I agree though that this is the marina operator's problem and
somebody needs to stay on him until he resolves it.

Not bliddy likely in this place.

I found some open sockets on the other side of him and just moved one
of his cords to one after making sure the outlet was live (not
something you take for granted in our marina).

I want power available when I need it for tools, the occasional hot
shower, or a big dishwashing after a daysail. I don't like to leave
my boat plugged in all the time because I don't see any reason to pump
any ground leakage (probably inevitable in this place) through my
metal parts when I'm not using the power.

I guess I've got to reserve a plug in this environment. I've got a
marine to standard household adapter that I use to plug a line tester
cube into for checking outlets before I plug in. I put my name and
the boat's name on it and left it in the outlet with breaker turned
off. We'll see if that works.

--

Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in news:0Nqwg.777$uH6.583
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

FOUR HUNDRED BUCKS! What in the name of all that's crazy is Marinco
thinking.



Marinco's thinking if he can afford the boat, he won't mind them stealing
$400.

If you think that's bad, stop by Home Depot and price some WIRE! I have a
church waiting to repair the 8-pair #14 speaker wires the rats I told them
8 times over the past 3 years to get out of the attic. 100' of 8-pair #14
wire is now costing me OVER $400 in a plain grey plastic sheath. I'm
putting the next cable inside blue poly flex to keep the rats eating the
church wiring away from it.

Hope I get it installed before the rats burn the church down chewing on the
AC wiring!

My pleas for pest management fell on deaf ears.....again.

Thou shalt not kill...

(except maybe the firemen the roof falls on while they're trying to
put the fire out)

--

Roger Long



"Larry" wrote

Hope I get it installed before the rats burn the church down chewing
on the
AC wiring!

My pleas for pest management fell on deaf ears.....again.

The power boat culture is not like the sailboat society. They can rock
your
sailboat with a big wake and wave their hands at you with a smile

Or just blindly tack directly in front of another vessel and then whine
about "right of way" having not taken at least the slightest look around
first.

There's enough idiocy around without the stereotypes, no?