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Just recieved a sample of Spade's new Oceane anchor. It is considerably
less expensive than the original Spade but it is also not as sexy looking. Definitely not as much hand labor to make them as the original Spades. Looks like it was laser cut, welded and heavily galvanized. Spade claims the set and hold are equal to the original spades and the geometry looks somewhat similar but it has a completely different balance. The nose is not weighted and it has a considerable amount of fluke behind the shank. I am going to take it down to the pond this evening and see how well it sets. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Glenn,
I had a long email conversation with Alain about this new anchor. It appears to be a response to price point pressure. I hope he is not undermining the great reputation the brand has in order to compete with the bargain anchors. -- Dennis Gibbons S/V Dark Lady CN35-207 email: dennis dash gibbons at worldnet dot att dot net "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message ... Just recieved a sample of Spade's new Oceane anchor. It is considerably less expensive than the original Spade but it is also not as sexy looking. Definitely not as much hand labor to make them as the original Spades. Looks like it was laser cut, welded and heavily galvanized. Spade claims the set and hold are equal to the original spades and the geometry looks somewhat similar but it has a completely different balance. The nose is not weighted and it has a considerable amount of fluke behind the shank. I am going to take it down to the pond this evening and see how well it sets. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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The Oceane is definitely a compromise but it does seem to perform pretty
well. Considering the price, the only real objection I have right now is the styling. One concern that several of my customers had about the Spade was that the smooth arching shank makes it to eager to self launch. Alain added a little stub on the shank to provide a resting point for the roller. While it does allow the rode to be eased a bit more before the Oceane will drop, it gives the anchor a sort of Bruce Wayne "Bat-Anchor" look that takes some getting used to. I took this little 8 lb Oceane, an 11 lb Bruce, an 8.5 lb Danforth and a 13 lb Spade S40 down to the pond last night. My "test bottom" is about 12" of soft mud over clay that I keep clear of trash that might foul. We dropped the anchors about 20' from shore in 3' of water. Allowing for the 1' height of the winch stand it works out to a 5:1 scope. My son has my 1000 lb dynamometer up in Athens and the 15,000 lb one is not sensitive enough to give meaningful readings so all I can talk about is setting and be very subjective about hold. You really need 10 or 15 sets in different bottoms to test but I only had time to make two sets on each anchor so these results are only an indication. As expected, the Bruce set the fastest (about 12") but crept steadily under moderate pressure. The Danforth took the longest to set and did not hold all that well. The Spade set in about the same distance but went deeper faster and did not creep. The Oceane took a couple of feet more to reach the clay but did not creep once set and judging from the muck we had to clean off, dug deeper into the clay. The next step is to try them in the sand beach out at lake Tobesofkee but it will be a few days before I can haul all this stuff out there. Dennis Gibbons wrote: Glenn, I had a long email conversation with Alain about this new anchor. It appears to be a response to price point pressure. I hope he is not undermining the great reputation the brand has in order to compete with the bargain anchors. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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The global economic down turn is putting pressure on a great many high end
products to find a way to lower their prices... Denny "Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message ... Glenn, I had a long email conversation with Alain about this new anchor. It appears to be a response to price point pressure. I hope he is not undermining the great reputation the brand has in order to compete with the bargain anchors. -- Dennis Gibbons S/V Dark Lady CN35-207 email: dennis dash gibbons at worldnet dot att dot net "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message ... Just recieved a sample of Spade's new Oceane anchor. It is considerably less expensive than the original Spade but it is also not as sexy looking. Definitely not as much hand labor to make them as the original Spades. Looks like it was laser cut, welded and heavily galvanized. Spade claims the set and hold are equal to the original spades and the geometry looks somewhat similar but it has a completely different balance. The nose is not weighted and it has a considerable amount of fluke behind the shank. I am going to take it down to the pond this evening and see how well it sets. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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This looks like the beginnings of a great Practical Sailor article.
Yesterday morning off Gibson Island a 31 or so foot something or other broke free and was drifting down on an S2. They were within 5 feet of the S2 when they got their engine running and moved away. Wife at the helm in her nightshirt and hubby up front fussing with the anchor which turned out to be a very light weight Danforth. A picnic anchor. We'd had some pretty good gusts when a thunderstorm moved through the area, but my 35 lb. CQR holding my 21,000 lb. boat didn't budge in the Chesapeake mud. Joe Wood Glenn Ashmore wrote: The Oceane is definitely a compromise but it does seem to perform pretty well. Considering the price, the only real objection I have right now is the styling. One concern that several of my customers had about the Spade was that the smooth arching shank makes it to eager to self launch. Alain added a little stub on the shank to provide a resting point for the roller. While it does allow the rode to be eased a bit more before the Oceane will drop, it gives the anchor a sort of Bruce Wayne "Bat-Anchor" look that takes some getting used to. I took this little 8 lb Oceane, an 11 lb Bruce, an 8.5 lb Danforth and a 13 lb Spade S40 down to the pond last night. My "test bottom" is about 12" of soft mud over clay that I keep clear of trash that might foul. We dropped the anchors about 20' from shore in 3' of water. Allowing for the 1' height of the winch stand it works out to a 5:1 scope. My son has my 1000 lb dynamometer up in Athens and the 15,000 lb one is not sensitive enough to give meaningful readings so all I can talk about is setting and be very subjective about hold. You really need 10 or 15 sets in different bottoms to test but I only had time to make two sets on each anchor so these results are only an indication. As expected, the Bruce set the fastest (about 12") but crept steadily under moderate pressure. The Danforth took the longest to set and did not hold all that well. The Spade set in about the same distance but went deeper faster and did not creep. The Oceane took a couple of feet more to reach the clay but did not creep once set and judging from the muck we had to clean off, dug deeper into the clay. The next step is to try them in the sand beach out at lake Tobesofkee but it will be a few days before I can haul all this stuff out there. Dennis Gibbons wrote: Glenn, I had a long email conversation with Alain about this new anchor. It appears to be a response to price point pressure. I hope he is not undermining the great reputation the brand has in order to compete with the bargain anchors. |
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