8 to 10 foot seas!?

Holly Shixx

The gulf stream is only 2-3 miles east of Ft. Lauderdale. Any 20+ knot
with north component will produce 8-10' seas. 4-6 is normal if we have
any wind. Best sailing is when there are small craft warnings.

Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Florida Keyz wrote:

8 to 10 foot seas!?

Holly Shixx

Thanks for the info Peggie
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Peggie Hall wrote:

Kelton Joyner wrote:

Peggie,
I know that you normally work with the "output" side, but I have a
question about the "input" side. I have an aluminum 125 gal water tank
that has been sitting in a boat unused for 5-6 years. What can I put
in the tank and how much water to slosh around to clean the tank the
next time the seas are 8-10', then drain through the plumbing to clean
the pipes.



I'll answer that with an excerpt from the chapter "Fresh Water
Maintenance" in my book:

"Although most people think only in terms of the tank, the plumbing is
actually the source of most foul water, because the molds, mildew, fungi
and bacteria which cause it thrive in damp dark places, not under water.
Many people—and even some boat manufacturers—believe that keeping the
tanks empty reduce the problem, but an empty water tank only provides
another damp dark home for those “critters.”

"There are all kinds of products sold that claim to keep onboard water
fresh, but all that’s really necessary is an annua--or in especially
warm climates, semi-annual recommissioning of the entire system-—tank
and plumbing. The following recommendations conform to section 10.8 in
the A-1 192 code covering electrical, plumbing, and heating of
recreational vehicles (including boats). The solution is approved and
recommended by competent health officials. It may be used in a new
system a used one that has not been used for a period of time, or one
that may have been contaminated.

"Before beginning, turn off hot water heater at the breaker; do not turn
it on again until the entire recommissioning is complete.

1. Prepare a chlorine solution using one gallon of water and 1/2 cup (4
oz) Clorox or Purex household bleach (5-7% sodium Hypochlorine
solution). With tank empty, pour chlorine solution into tank. Use one
gallon of solution for each 5 gallons of tank capacity.

2. Complete filling of tank with fresh water. Open each faucet and drain
cock until air has been released and the entire system is filled. Do
not turn off the pump; it must remain on to keep the system pressurized
and the solution in the lines.

3. Allow to stand for at least three hours, but no longer than 24 hours.

4 Drain through every faucet on the boat (and if you haven't done this
in a while, it's a good idea to remove any diffusion screens from the
faucets, because what's likely to come out will clog them). Fill the
tank again with fresh water only, drain again through every faucet on
the boat.

5. To remove excess chlorine taste or odor which might remain, prepare a
solution of one quart white vinegar to five gallons water and allow this
solution to agitate in tank for several days by vehicle motion.

6. Drain tank again through every faucet, and flush the lines again by
fill the tank 1/4-1/2 full and again flushing with potable water.

"People have expressed concern about using this method to recommission
aluminum tanks. While bleach (chlorine) IS corrosive, it’s effects are
are cumulative. So the effect of an annual or semi-annual "shock
treatment" is negligible compared to the cumulative effect of holding
chlorinated city water in the tank for years. Nevertheless, it's a good
idea to mix the total amount of bleach in a few gallons of water before
putting it into either a stainless or aluminum tank."

Before you ask...For regular annual recommissioning, it prob'ly wouldn't
be necessary to completely fill a 125 gallon tank if you use your water
and replace it often...since 90% of foul water problems originate in
the plumbing, 40-50 gallons should be enough in most cases. But since
yours has been unused for several years, I think you'd better fill it
completely...'cuz the same "critters" that grow in damp dark lines are
also likely to have taken up housekeeping in a tank.

That chapter includes some additional things you can do keep your fresh
water fresher longer, btw.

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:03:23 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

1. Prepare a chlorine solution using one gallon of water and 1/2 cup (4
oz) Clorox or Purex household bleach (5-7% sodium Hypochlorine
solution). With tank empty, pour chlorine solution into tank. Use one
gallon of solution for each 5 gallons of tank capacity.
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

1 US gallon = 4 US quarts = 8 US pints = 8 X 16 US fluid ounces
1/2 US cup = 4 US fluid oz

SO
1/2 cup per gall is
4 in 8X16

OR
1 in 2X16 thats 1:32 by volume
That seems like a 3% solution to me.

But what do I know?

Brian W

Yea, 3% bleach, which is maybe 6% sodium hypochlorite, which has about 50%
chlorine. So multiply 3% by 3% and you'll come up with about 0.1% chlorine
solution.

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Keith
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"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:03:23 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

1. Prepare a chlorine solution using one gallon of water and 1/2 cup (4
oz) Clorox or Purex household bleach (5-7% sodium Hypochlorine
solution). With tank empty, pour chlorine solution into tank. Use one
gallon of solution for each 5 gallons of tank capacity.
///
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

1 US gallon = 4 US quarts = 8 US pints = 8 X 16 US fluid ounces
1/2 US cup = 4 US fluid oz

SO
1/2 cup per gall is
4 in 8X16

OR
1 in 2X16 thats 1:32 by volume
That seems like a 3% solution to me.

But what do I know?

Brian W

Gentlemen, you have missed Peggy's point. Commercially avaliable bleach
solution is 5-7% Sodium hypochlorite solution.

Cheers

I thought they were going for the ratio of chlorine/water after the
bleach is mixed with water...the amount of chlorine that actually ends
up in the tank. Iow, if you chose not to use bleach, but undiluted
chlorine...

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



Ansley W. Sawyer wrote:
Gentlemen, you have missed Peggy's point. Commercially avaliable bleach
solution is 5-7% Sodium hypochlorite solution.

Cheers