On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:29:15 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Sailor is a REALLY nice marine SSB but the ones I have seen are almost
impossible to tune on Ham bands. THe Icom 802 is a lot more flexable if
not quite as high quality.

As Larry's sig almost always has his W4 (indicating his age :-)) call
sign on it I suspect that Ham bands are important to him. :-)

Press 3 buttons while turning the Icom M802 on and its transceive
frequency range expands to 1.6-30 Mhz.....including all the ham bands.
Before turning the boat over to the "just sailor" clan, press the 3
buttons again and it switches the HF SSB back over so it will only
transmit on the pre-programmed marine channels....more goof-proof for
the CB crowd....(c;

73, Larry W4CSC......er, ah, which IS a vanity call because I'm NOT
THAT OLD!! I was SO young they had run out of K2 calls so I had to
get WA2 then WB4 when I moved to SC in '64....(c;

Whisky Four Charleston South Carolina.........is the idea...


Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:29:15 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Sailor is a REALLY nice marine SSB but the ones I have seen are almost
impossible to tune on Ham bands.

The new all-digital HC4500 SSB is according to information no problem
to open up for the ham bands. I know people who are using it that way,
for example

www.reginasailing.com


/Marcus

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Marcus AAkesson wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:29:15 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


Sailor is a REALLY nice marine SSB but the ones I have seen are almost
impossible to tune on Ham bands.


The new all-digital HC4500 SSB is according to information no problem
to open up for the ham bands. I know people who are using it that way,
for example

www.reginasailing.com


/Marcus



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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 02:18:35 +0200, Marcus AAkesson
wrote:

Buy some real high-quality radios from Sailor instead. Their SSB is
fantastic.

www.sailor.dk

/Marcus

"Sailor RT4822 includes a transceiver unit and a handset. The
SPARC-BUS interface, an advanced balanced data and AF interface, can
be used to interconnect multiple control units and for exterior
computer based control/programming options."

OH BOY! Another incompatible, non-communicating data protocol that
won't talk to anything else on the boat! Who else uses Sparc (besides
Sun, that is)??

I do see there's a secondary NMEA interface back there, somewhere,
though.

The other problem you'll have is SERVICE.....

From the webpage:
Please, choose a country:

Austria
Faroe Islands
Iceland
Rumania

Belgium
Finland
Ireland
Russia (C.I.S.)

Bulgaria
France
Italy
Spain

Croatia
Germany
Latvia/Lithuania
Sweden

Cyprus
Gibraltar
Malta
Switzerland

Denmark
Greece
Norway
Turkey

Estonia
Greenland
Poland
Ukraine


Holland
Portugal
UK/Eire

It is refreshing to know I could get it fixed in the Ukraine or
Estonia, but what happens over the rest of the planet....places like
USA, Canada, S America, Caribbean Islands, Hawaii, Tahiti, Oz, NZ??

Be great if you never leave Europe......er, ah, except maybe for the
Army Green color......

Pass....but thanks for pointing it out....



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...

"Sailor RT4822 includes a transceiver unit and a handset. The
SPARC-BUS interface, an advanced balanced data and AF interface, can
be used to interconnect multiple control units and for exterior
computer based control/programming options."

OH BOY! Another incompatible, non-communicating data protocol that
won't talk to anything else on the boat! Who else uses Sparc (besides
Sun, that is)??

I do see there's a secondary NMEA interface back there, somewhere,
though.

The other problem you'll have is SERVICE.....

From the webpage:
Please, choose a country:

Austria
Faroe Islands
Iceland
Rumania

big snip

It is refreshing to know I could get it fixed in the Ukraine or
Estonia, but what happens over the rest of the planet....places like
USA, Canada, S America, Caribbean Islands, Hawaii, Tahiti, Oz, NZ??

Well, on the page before the one you cited it says:
Africa
Asia and the Oceania
Europe
North America
South America
The Middle East

So, exactly *what* is your problem???

Meindert

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:10:58 +0200, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote:


So, exactly *what* is your problem???

Meindert

It's service network is very small on this side of the pond.

OD Green looks awful against any wood panel....



Larry W4CSC

3600 planes with transponders are burning 8-10 million
gallons of kerosene per hour over the USA. R-12 car air
conditioners are responsible for the ozone hole, right?

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:58:59 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

"Sailor RT4822 includes a transceiver unit and a handset. The
SPARC-BUS interface, an advanced balanced data and AF interface, can
be used to interconnect multiple control units and for exterior
computer based control/programming options."

OH BOY! Another incompatible, non-communicating data protocol that
won't talk to anything else on the boat! Who else uses Sparc (besides
Sun, that is)??

Completely irrelevant. This is like asking what kind of protocol icom
and others are using in their microphones with control buttons, it's
not meant to be interfaced to any other equipment than a secondary
control post.


I do see there's a secondary NMEA interface back there, somewhere,
though.

Exactly, open standards for You....

The other problem you'll have is SERVICE.....

Why? There are 9 locations listed.

Texas
Alabama
California
San Francisco
Florida
Louisiana
New York
Virginia
Washington

They hardly ever break anyways.
They wouldn't be one of the top choices for the commercial fleets if
they needed service often. Quite the opposite, Sailor radios are known
to just work for decades without a glitch.









/Marcus

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